Well, the best offer I've heard from any alderman in 2+ years...Ald. Lovero offered his sausage to any Police, Fire or Public Works employee at Oktoberfest 2008. Thanks Bobby, but happily, I don't work for any of those departments. :o
Council approved the Superblock agreement.
Argued with the mayor about charging the BDC for police coverage at the depot events (city funds BDC, BDC pays city...what is the point??).
Argued more about the budget.
Deferred discussion of the retail overlay to COW.
Approved purchase of street sweeper.
Approved purchase of either two or four snow plows (the actual plow, not the entire truck).
Passed a bungalow double-wide.
Approved a rope ladder instead of a second entrance for a house.
BTW, for those that don't know...The DCOB sells italian sausage sammich's at Oktoberfest...I know that's what you guys were thinking...
Brian left out the best part of the meeting... The part that makes me happy I'm in Berwyn. The new FD Chief, Asst. Chief, and new DC were sworn in. To much applause I might say....
Ok. So we all know I'm biased...
If there was any doubt about the rencent promotions in the FD, you only had to be in council chambers this evening...
I'm figuring 4/6 of the FD was there... in dress uniform... to see O'Halloran, Simek, and Swade get sworn in. Long timers can't remember the last time they've seen that many FF there. Even the guys on duty were there (with radios in hand in case they had a call) cause their (black shift) DC was getting promoted. [And if you'd like to make an issue about that... they would have gotten to the truck/engine in the same amount of time than if they'd been in the house.] The FD was there in full force to show their support of Mayor O'Connor's appointments.
There was positive energy in the council chambers.
It was nice to see.
p.s. - I have it on good authority that our Mayor considered looking at outside candidates, but he felt that the FD was a "family" and the next Chief should come from inside.
It was not an issue of a rope ladder out the window as a second exit but that the house was a legal nonconforming two unit in a single family zone and that they wanted to put up a deck and a separate entrance for the upstairs apartment. That is a zoning board thing as you can't make any changes to a legal nonconforming without going to zoning first, that's how the ordinance reads. The alderman who usually has his head "in the sand" was making an issue of that unit only having one exit. There was no work going on in that apt. so a second exit did not have to be added, that is stated in the local building code. The rope ladder thing had absolutley nothing to do with the zoning issue, it was just thrown in by the alderman who didn't know any better nor really wanted to. It's like saying " you can go ahead and build your garage but you have to paint the handrail on your stairs first." If it wasn't for the fact that it was an apartment there, everything would be alright. When you build an entire second floor addition with bedrooms, you are not expected to don't have to put in two exits there. You have windows in each bedroom which is recognized as your emergency exits. Segwick condos on Stanley all have only one exit, granted it is sprinkled, but you can be traped five stories up in time of a fire, waiting for the fire depatment with a ladder because you can't get out due to only one exit. Just wanted to clarify.
Thanks EC.
All that which you stated was discussed a meeting or two ago, which I'd forgotten about.
Mustang, just out of curiosity, have you attended Cicero Town Hall meetings? What are they like?
Quote from: scoon on February 13, 2008, 03:39:19 AM
The part that makes me happy I'm in Berwyn. The new FD Chief, Asst. Chief, and new DC were sworn in. To much applause I might say....
That makes you happy you're in Berwyn, or just relieved they made the right choice?
Such decisions shouldn't be ones that make a citizen feel uneasy about their city.
This being Berwyn, and supposing these are the proper hires, I'm just happy Berwyn didn't drop the ball.
Quote from: OakParkSpartan on February 12, 2008, 11:21:11 PM
Approved purchase of either two or four snow plows (the actual plow, not the entire truck).
Great. PW requested more - they got it. Now the whiners can shut up. If there's still a problem, the blame will be squarely upon PW for not requesting more.........such as more workers as confused had suggested.
Quote from: OakParkSpartan on February 12, 2008, 11:21:11 PM
Ald. Lovero offered his sausage to any Police, Fire or Public Works employee at Oktoberfest 2008. Thanks Bobby
LOL, nice.
Without an agenda, he's got to make friends and get people to trust him blindly.
Quote from: EC on February 13, 2008, 08:27:16 AM
It was not an issue of a rope ladder out the window as a second exit but that the house was a legal nonconforming two unit in a single family zone and that they wanted to put up a deck and a separate entrance for the upstairs apartment. That is a zoning board thing as you can't make any changes to a legal nonconforming without going to zoning first, that's how the ordinance reads. The alderman who usually has his head "in the sand" was making an issue of that unit only having one exit. There was no work going on in that apt. so a second exit did not have to be added, that is stated in the local building code. The rope ladder thing had absolutley nothing to do with the zoning issue, it was just thrown in by the alderman who didn't know any better nor really wanted to. It's like saying " you can go ahead and build your garage but you have to paint the handrail on your stairs first." If it wasn't for the fact that it was an apartment there, everything would be alright. When you build an entire second floor addition with bedrooms, you are not expected to don't have to put in two exits there. You have windows in each bedroom which is recognized as your emergency exits. Segwick condos on Stanley all have only one exit, granted it is sprinkled, but you can be traped five stories up in time of a fire, waiting for the fire depatment with a ladder because you can't get out due to only one exit. Just wanted to clarify.
I don't care. An apartment (separate residence) vs. a 2nd story bedroom with regards to exits?
It
should required and different, more stringent rules applied in the spirit of keeping "single family zones" as just that.
Too bad. Boo Hoo!
Quote from: Bonster on February 13, 2008, 09:13:45 AM
Quote from: scoon on February 13, 2008, 03:39:19 AM
The part that makes me happy I'm in Berwyn. The new FD Chief, Asst. Chief, and new DC were sworn in. To much applause I might say....
That makes you happy you're in Berwyn, or just relieved they made the right choice?
Such decisions shouldn't be ones that make a citizen feel uneasy about their city.
This being Berwyn, and supposing these are the proper hires, I'm just happy Berwyn didn't drop the ball.
The overall atmosphere was what made me happy. For a few brief moments, everyone put aside the bull shit and were united.
That and no one complained about snow in the open forum.
QuoteCouncil approved the Superblock agreement.
Does this mean something is actually going to start building on that corner?
Quote from: dukesdad on February 13, 2008, 10:44:47 AM
QuoteCouncil approved the Superblock agreement.
Does this mean something is actually going to start building on that corner?
Piles of bird shit have been building for years.
Quote from: dukesdad on February 13, 2008, 10:44:47 AM
QuoteCouncil approved the Superblock agreement.
Does this mean something is actually going to start building on that corner?
I'd expect they'd be starting on the bank soon (just my guess, nothing official). Too cold to start digging for the new condos.
Cheers,
Brian
At the last MAC meeting the mayor said the agreement w/ the developer was that they had to start making progress on the bank before they could ask for other permits or something along those lines.
Quote from: k6s2zvfw on January 11, 2007, 04:07:30 PM
i'm saying 100 to 1 AGAINST that they actually break ground this year.
M
Quote from: java on January 11, 2007, 04:11:35 PM
You are probably right, but hopefully wrong. What the hell. I'll take that bet. Let's make it my $1 to your $100.
Mark Titzer
java - k6s2zvfw just called me. He wants his dollar. (and like Svengoolie - No personal checks!).
Quote from: Bonster on February 13, 2008, 12:51:41 PM
Quote from: k6s2zvfw on January 11, 2007, 04:07:30 PM
i'm saying 100 to 1 AGAINST that they actually break ground this year.
M
Quote from: java on January 11, 2007, 04:11:35 PM
You are probably right, but hopefully wrong. What the hell. I'll take that bet. Let's make it my $1 to your $100.
Mark Titzer
java - k6s2zvfw just called me. He wants his dollar. (and like Svengoolie - No personal checks!).
Tell him to send me his email address and I'll Paypal him a crisp Washington.
Quote from: Berwyn Patsy on February 13, 2008, 09:07:46 AM
Mustang, just out of curiosity, have you attended Cicero Town Hall meetings? What are they like?
Havent been to one in a long time. They sound completely different than the Berwyn meetings i read about here. Cicero meetings i have been too are very organized and very professional. They also seem to have tackled issues in private and by the time they get to the public meeting they know where they are going. I think the proof lies in the incredable amount of redevelopment going on here. About a quarter of a billion dollars. You don't get this much done with your leaders constantly bickering back and forth.
Quote from: scoon on February 13, 2008, 03:39:19 AM
Brian left out the best part of the meeting... The part that makes me happy I'm in Berwyn. The new FD Chief, Asst. Chief, and new DC were sworn in. To much applause I might say....
Ok. So we all know I'm biased...
If there was any doubt about the rencent promotions in the FD, you only had to be in council chambers this evening...
I'm figuring 4/6 of the FD was there... in dress uniform... to see O'Halloran, Simek, and Swade get sworn in. Long timers can't remember the last time they've seen that many FF there. Even the guys on duty were there (with radios in hand in case they had a call) cause their (black shift) DC was getting promoted. [And if you'd like to make an issue about that... they would have gotten to the truck/engine in the same amount of time than if they'd been in the house.] The FD was there in full force to show their support of Mayor O'Connor's appointments.
There was positive energy in the council chambers.
It was nice to see.
p.s. - I have it on good authority that our Mayor considered looking at outside candidates, but he felt that the FD was a "family" and the next Chief should come from inside.
Wow anymore biased and that would have been written by one of the FD and not just a Fire Fan.
Also, apparently the budget was also passed. I missed that.
Here is the story about the budget in the Life newspaper. Who were the NO votes? This is the first time that I can remember the budget getting passed before March.
City approves $81M 2008 budget
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By Staff reports
Berwyn Life
Wed Feb 13, 2008, 05:16 PM CST
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Berwyn, IL -
The City Council approved an $81 million budget for this year at a council meeting this week.
The budget projects that the city will take in about $74 million in revenue.
The city is estimating it will take in about $3.6 million more into its general fund this year than last because of a 5 percent property tax increase. It also expects to see a $1.4 million decrease in revenue from real estate transfer taxes.
A significant change was seen in the police department's budget, which increased by $1.2 million to provide for higher salaries due to raises, mid-year hires in 2007 and this year's planned hire of two replacement police officers to fill the positions vacated by promotions.
"It's a nice clean budget that moves the city forward," said Budget Committee Chairman and 3rd Ward Alderman Mark Weiner.
Some aldermen said they were not prepared to vote on the budget at Tuesday's meeting.
The vote was split 4-4, with Mayor Michael O'Connor breaking the tie in favor of the budget.
Why were some Alderman not prepared to vote on the budget?
The no votes were 1,2,6 & 7. Some aldermen thought there was too much information to sift through in a short amount of time and therefore felt that they could not vote effectively.
Quote from: frank white on February 13, 2008, 05:27:19 PM
Wow anymore biased and that would have been written by one of the FD and not just a Fire Fan.
What's your point frank white? Did you actually have something to say or are you just being a troll?
My guess is troll given your contributions so far.
Love and Bubbles,
Scoon - Asshole and Fire Fan
Chicago Fire?
Chuatemoc Blanco?
Quote from: scoon on February 14, 2008, 10:34:48 AM
Quote from: frank white on February 13, 2008, 05:27:19 PM
Wow anymore biased and that would have been written by one of the FD and not just a Fire Fan.
What's your point frank white? Did you actually have something to say or are you just being a troll?
My guess is troll given your contributions so far.
Love and Bubbles,
Scoon - Asshole and Fire Fan
I think I made my point Bootlick, but it was just an observation Mr. Thin Skin, no need to get all worked up about it. On the subject of contributions I can see the profound statements and great insight that you regularly share here and I will strive to be more like you in the future.
Quote from: frank white on February 14, 2008, 03:21:39 PM
On the subject of contributions I can see the profound statements and great insight that you regularly share here and I will strive to be more like you in the future.
Good to hear, cause you've basically been a dipshit up to this point. Striving to be like me is a step forward. You probably won't be able to reach my level of discourse right away, but don't let that discourage you. It's obvious that your writing skills have been neglected, but with a little practice, you can improve. Perhaps try reading a few books, magazines, or newspapers for examples of proper prose. And you might actually learn something and have your horizons expanded. Double bonus!
And with broadened horizons, writing silly posts like the ones in this thread won't seem like such a great idea. Or if you do, you might actually have a point behind them like I was really hoping you did. But I guess you wrote them to just be a dick. And that's ok. But don't expect to get taken seriously... and don't be surprised if people eventually ignore you all together.
You could also start with capitalizing your first and last names. You should take pride in your name and not be ashamed of it. Capitalize that F! Capitalize that W! Show the world that Frank White is a somebody. Not just some hack who found a website where he can pour out the bile from his unsatisfactory life.
And probably the most important piece of advice as you try to become more like me. Take pride in what you do. You can call me silly names, but I'm ok with it, because I'm not ashamed of the work I do with the FD, or any of the other things I do around town to make Berwyn a better place. I don't do these things to garner the approval of a frank white, or a hvychvy, or anyone else who likes to shit on those of us who do things. I'm proud of what I do... and you're going to have to let go of the notion that calling someone a name will make them stop what they are doing. And you should take that mentality to heart yourself.
If you want to be a troll, be a troll... be proud of it. Don't change your ways simply because I said you were a troll. You should never give up so easily... I never would. -- But if you truly have seen the error of your ways, I do hope you will strive to be more like me. You could do alot worse.
Scoon, your last post really made me smile and laugh. I guess that is why you are one of my bestest friends! Keep your sense of humor and don't go changing, to try and please.... well you get it.
Thanks for showing up on Tuesday and for going out afterward. It is always great seeing you and the Mrs.
Quote from: Felix Greco on February 14, 2008, 04:25:24 PM
Scoon, your last post really made me smile and laugh. I guess that is why you are one of my bestest friends! Keep your sense of humor and don't go changing, to try and please.... well you get it.
Thanks for showing up on Tuesday and for going out afterward. It is always great seeing you and the Mrs.
Thanks Fee.
You know me... always willing to help someone trying to help themselves. And have a little fun along the way.
See ya tomorrow. (Or tonite?) Two times in one week. Pinch me. I must be dreaming.
Scoon, your last post really made me smile and laugh. I guess that is why you are one of my bestest friends! Keep your sense of humor and don't go changing, to try and please.... well you get it.
Thanks for showing up on Friday and for going out afterward. It is always great seeing you and the Mrs.
Thanks Bon.
You know me... always willing to help someone trying to help themselves. And have a little fun along the way.
See ya sometime. (Or not?) Zero times in one week. Pinch me. I must be dreaming.
Bonster, you make me smile and laugh too! Let me know when I can buy you a beer and toast the future of Berwyn!
Felix ( I am not a candidate for Fire Chief, not now, not in the near future either) Greco
Quote from: Felix Greco on February 14, 2008, 04:50:47 PM
Bonster, you make me smile and laugh too! Let me know when I can buy you a beer and toast the future of Berwyn!
Felix ( I am not a candidate for Fire Chief, not now, not in the near future either) Greco
Maybe not in your mind, but certainly in Bonster's.
::) ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: Felix Greco on February 14, 2008, 04:50:47 PM
Bonster, you make me smile and laugh too! Let me know when I can buy you a beer and toast the future of Berwyn!
Hey, as long as the future is just you in the FD and not in politics, I'll drink to that!
You have enough to do pulling my flaming rectum out of burning buildings. No need to cloud your head with other asspirations. ;D
Bon, what are you talking about. He's the Treasurer for the DCOB. Yep, no politics there.
I thought that was Tony Laureto's function (guess I'll have to call him ;) )?
Two firemen in the party.
Any police? Is Skryd a DCoB'er now?
PW?
Iron workers? (poets or otherwise)
Don't call us. We'll call you.
Quote from: SILK on February 14, 2008, 08:21:23 PM
Don't call us. We'll call you.
Yeah!
http://www.youtube.com/v/i4njPe2_rho&rel=1
Sugarloaf '75
Keep licking those boots Scoon and writing lenghty posts that are full of drivel and nonsense. Who filled you with this sense of self importance? It is great to know that someone so intelligent as you is out there doing such great things for Berwyn! Licking boots, sucking up and being a sycophant,...great qualities. I'm sure that I am not alone in thinking we are lucky to have such a wonderful example of citizenry here in Berwyn. Keep up the good work.
Quote from: frank white on February 15, 2008, 06:29:17 AM
Keep licking those boots Scoon and writing lenghty posts that are full of drivel and nonsense. Who filled you with this sense of self importance? It is great to know that someone so intelligent as you is out there doing such great things for Berwyn! Licking boots, sucking up and being a sycophant,...great qualities. I'm sure that I am not alone in thinking we are lucky to have such a wonderful example of citizenry here in Berwyn. Keep up the good work.
Such bitterness, or maybe jealousy?
Quote from: apatriot on February 14, 2008, 05:24:16 PM
Bon, what are you talking about. He's the Treasurer for the DCOB. Yep, no politics there.
Enlightenment could be yours. Have a beautiful day!
Quote from: apatriot on February 14, 2008, 05:24:16 PM
Bon, what are you talking about. He's the Treasurer for the DCOB. Yep, no politics there.
Interesting information. Apatriot. Thanks... I did not realize that Mr. Greco was Treasurer of BOTH the DCOB and The Committee to Elect Robert Lovero.
I should look at the D2 site more often. :D ;D :D
Looks like Mr. Greco gave quite a bit of money last year to the DCOB and to the Committe to Elect Robert Lovero. The pot's been calling the kettle black:
Friends of Felix A. Greco
1707 Apple Valley Road
Bolingbrook, IL 60490
$600.00
10/16/2007
Individual Contribution
Cmte to Elect Robert J Lovero
Greco, Jr., Felix A.
1707 Apple Valley Road
Bolingbrook, IL 60490
$500.00
10/16/2007
Individual Contribution
Cmte to Elect Robert J Lovero
Braun, Michael A.
1707 Apple Valley Road
Bolingbrook, IL 60490
$150.00
6/3/2007
Individual Contribution
Cmte to Elect Robert J Lovero
Braun, Michael A.
1707 Apple Valley Road
Bolingbrook, IL 60490
$500.00
6/20/2007 Individual Contribution
Cmte to Elect Robert J Lovero
Greco, Jr., Felix A.
1707 Apple Valley Road
Bolingbrook, IL 60490
$500.00
6/3/2007
Individual Contribution
Cmte to Elect Robert J Lovero
Greco, Jr., Felix A.
1707 Apple Valley Road
Bolingbrook, IL 60490
$500.00
6/22/2007
Individual Contribution
Cmte to Elect Robert J Lovero
Greco, Sr., Felix A.
1065 E. Wilson
Lombard, IL 60148
$500.00
6/3/2007
Individual Contribution
Cmte to Elect Robert J Lovero
Friends of Felix A Greco
1707 Apple Valley Road
Bolingbrook, IL 60490
$200.00
1/8/2007
Individual Contribution
Democratic Citizens of Berwyn (DCOB)
Greco, Jr., Felix A.
1707 Apple Valley Road
Bolingbrook, IL 60490
$500.00
2/2/2007
Individual Contribution
Democratic Citizens of Berwyn (DCOB)
Damn, Felix. You're loaded like Ted!
Quote from: Felix Greco on February 03, 2008, 08:55:42 AM
Bonster,
Its not all about the money!
What's your angle with the DCoB?
What is Bobby going to do for you as a fireman here that OC isn't or <Republican farce> won't?
Quote from: Ted on February 15, 2008, 07:39:50 AM
Friends of Felix A. Greco
1707 Apple Valley Road
Bolingbrook, IL 60490
$600.00
10/16/2007
Individual Contribution
Cmte to Elect Robert J Lovero
<...>
Friends of Felix A Greco
1707 Apple Valley Road
Bolingbrook, IL 60490
$200.00
1/8/2007
Individual Contribution
Democratic Citizens of Berwyn (DCOB)
I'd like to announce the formation of "the Friends of Rob Bain".
I will now be accepting donations with the intention of influencing some election at some point in the future...
-Rob
Felix ran for elected office out in Bolingbrook, so he didn't create that organization on a whim.
I'd like to announce the formation of "the Friends of Rob Bain".
it's just that easy rob. You don't even have to run for anything. You could just state "for better government in Illinois", and start collecting. It's a beautiful thing.
Quote from: apatriot on February 15, 2008, 09:30:43 AM
it's just that easy rob. You don't even have to run for anything. You could just state "for better government in Illinois", and start collecting. It's a beautiful thing.
That's right, Rob. You don't even need a platform!
Quote from: Bonster on February 15, 2008, 10:33:06 AM
Quote from: apatriot on February 15, 2008, 09:30:43 AM
it's just that easy rob. You don't even have to run for anything. You could just state "for better government in Illinois", and start collecting. It's a beautiful thing.
That's right, Rob. You don't even need a platform!
Yeah, and then you can do what Frank Marzullo is doing with the Committee for a Better Berwyn and have all your meetings every weekend in Lake Geneva and charge in the gas against the money you've collected in campaign contributions... <LOL>
Friends of Apatriot (mission: to promote the need of outstanding pizza and beef sandwiches in Berwyn).
Quoteto promote the need of outstanding pizza and beef sandwiches in Berwyn
I'm OK with the pizza, work on beef sandwiches first.
ok, duke, you got it. Anything to please my contributors.
Don't forget the Sausage!
Quote from: frank white on February 15, 2008, 06:29:17 AM
Keep licking those boots Scoon and writing lenghty posts that are full of drivel and nonsense. Who filled you with this sense of self importance? It is great to know that someone so intelligent as you is out there doing such great things for Berwyn! Licking boots, sucking up and being a sycophant,...great qualities. I'm sure that I am not alone in thinking we are lucky to have such a wonderful example of citizenry here in Berwyn. Keep up the good work.
frank,
This is not a good start towards being more like me. Before posting, ask yourself: What Would Scoon Do?
sorry, Silk. I would never horn in on what Bobby's trying to do.
Quote from: Ted on February 15, 2008, 07:39:50 AM
The pot's been calling the kettle black:
What is this referring to Ted? Did I miss something in another thread?
Felix, can you possibly enlighten me?
???
Quote from: scoon on February 15, 2008, 11:05:28 AM
Quote from: Ted on February 15, 2008, 07:39:50 AM
The pot's been calling the kettle black:
What is this referring to Ted? Did I miss something in another thread?
Felix, can you possibly enlighten me?
???
I think comments about how much Ted has contributed to the IVB over the years.
Quote from: OakParkSpartan on February 15, 2008, 09:16:52 AM
Felix ran for elected office out in Bolingbrook, so he didn't create that organization on a whim.
Does he old that office?
Quote from: OakParkSpartan on February 15, 2008, 11:18:57 AM
Quote from: scoon on February 15, 2008, 11:05:28 AM
Quote from: Ted on February 15, 2008, 07:39:50 AM
The pot's been calling the kettle black:
What is this referring to Ted? Did I miss something in another thread?
Felix, can you possibly enlighten me?
???
I think comments about how much Ted has contributed to the IVB over the years.
Ok, I thought maybe I missed a juicy squabble on one of the education threads or something... (that's not a shot Ted, I don't have any interest in those and only read them when I'm Really bored at work.)
Quote from: Terri on February 15, 2008, 11:39:27 AM
Quote from: OakParkSpartan on February 15, 2008, 09:16:52 AM
Felix ran for elected office out in Bolingbrook, so he didn't create that organization on a whim.
Does he old that office?
No.
First of all, I started the committe when I was running for an elected office in Will County. I lost the race and chose not to dissolve the committee. Not sure if I might run again in the future. Have I contributed to the DCOB? Yes I have. I also gave to the IVB last year for the Mardi Gras. I have also given to Republican candidates in the past, both in Berwyn and throughout the area.
Most of the contributions my family members and myself have given to the DCOB and Lovero have all been returned because, Mr. Lovero doesl not want to accept money from me or my family members. So somebody needs to recheck the D-2's.
I was asked to be the Treasurer of both the DCOB and Bob Lovero's committee by Mr. Lovero. Now, I do not have to explain my reasons as to why, but I will tell everybody this: Bob Lovero and I have been friends for over 30 years. I value my friendship with him and could not say no when he asked. I believe in being loyal to a friend. He is my friend.
As far as Mr. Korbos saying "the pot calling the kettle black." I have in the past questioned his donations to certain individuals and wondered why, if he was a" loyal Democrat" would he support others, as was told to me by a friend of mine, who also knows Ted. The same person who says he is an upstanding and trustworthy individual, of which I have related to Mr. Korbos on a few occasions, when I have sent him messages in private. I have never met Ted, but I do respect him and his views. People who do not agree with Ted, have also told me that he is a great person, so I will not say anything bad about him nor question his character.
No promises or favors have been made to me, nor have I asked for any promises or favors from Bob. That is not how he operates nor do I .
What I find reprehensible is that so many people on here, always want to try and find the dirt or sully somebodys character or reputation because they do not agree with their views. Why, I should become an issue in a thread about Local events and Meetings is a mystery to me.
With so many other problems going on in the city, county, state and in the world, why worry about me? Now, I may not agree with everybody on here all the time, but I do not disagree with everybody on here either. Believe it or not!
If anybody wants to question my character or the type of individual I am, ask Scoon, OPS, LL Schmidt, who I met during the Citizens Academy,Panther, if he still reads this crap. Panther has known me and my family for a long time. I consider Scoon and OPS, good friends and they will give it to you straight. They can tell you that I do not always agree with them, but do listen to their arguments and keep an open mind.
Well, enough of my long winded response, and its time for me to get ready for the DCOB's " I Love Berwyn" party.
Bonster, I definately need to have a few beers now, even though I am a vodka man, and would like to have a few with you real soon.
Quote from: Felix Greco on February 15, 2008, 03:24:00 PM
I was asked to be the Treasurer of both the DCOB and Bob Lovero's committee by Mr. Lovero. Now, I do not have to explain my reasons as to why, but I will tell everybody this: Bob Lovero and I have been friends for over 30 years. I value my friendship with him and could not say no when he asked. I believe in being loyal to a friend. He is my friend.
Some would say that's politicizing the Department. Bobby would say that's surrounding himself with friends.
It's both.
Quote from: Felix Greco on February 15, 2008, 03:24:00 PM
As far as Mr. Korbos saying "the pot calling the kettle black." I have in the past questioned his donations to certain individuals and wondered why, if he was a" loyal Democrat" would he support others
Same reason you would support others (IVB, Republicans) as a "loyal Dem?"
Quote from: Felix Greco on February 15, 2008, 03:24:00 PM
Well, enough of my long winded response, and its time for me to get ready for the DCOB's " I Love Berwyn" party.
Have a good time, but please, do not support the proliferation of Pit Bulls in our fair city.
(don't contribute to the raffle!)
"Brian left out the best part of the meeting... The part that makes me happy I'm in Berwyn. The new FD Chief, Asst. Chief, and new DC were sworn in. To much applause I might say"....
The Life video at council...Geez, I wonder where they got that idea....
http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/berwyn/news/x377415019
I missed many great events in 60402 in my two week absence. Wish I could have been there.
Congrats guys!...
However, in keeping with the outstanding protection BFD affords Berwyn, I kept myself
busy applying UV protection lotion to the helpless chicks who frequent the sandy beaches of
the gulf shores of FL...
Hey, somebody had to do it.
Quote from: Felix Greco on February 15, 2008, 03:24:00 PM
As far as Mr. Korbos saying "the pot calling the kettle black." I have in the past questioned his donations to certain individuals and wondered why, if he was a" loyal Democrat" would he support others...
That's not the issue. As Bonster pointed out, you yourself have admitted to giving to candidates other than Democrats.
I have no problems with people giving contributions to candidates or participating in the political process. In fact, I encourage it.
What I don't like are people who take a holier-than-thou attitude toward people who make large political contributions and then I later find out that the holier-than-thou hypocrites have made large contributions themselves.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones.
Quote from: Felix Greco on February 15, 2008, 03:24:00 PM
... What I find reprehensible is that so many people on here, always want to try and find the dirt or sully somebodys character or reputation because they do not agree with their views. ..
Really?? Tell me, Mr. Greco, in the past have you ever tried to find dirt on someone or try to sully their reputation?
Regards,
Ted
Participation in the politcal realm via contribution in money, voting for or supporting your candidate is the American way.
It is said that more persons need to be involved. But, when someone announces involvement on the BTF they are chastized.
Damned if you do and damned if you dont.
Quote from: Rizzo on February 16, 2008, 09:18:40 AMIt is said that more persons need to be involved. But, when someone announces involvement on the BTF they are chastized.
that's right. doesn't matter the forum. BTF, LTH, ABT, BDC...that's the nature of online chat.
Quote from: Bonster on February 16, 2008, 09:52:52 AM
Quote from: Rizzo on February 16, 2008, 09:18:40 AMIt is said that more persons need to be involved. But, when someone announces involvement on the BTF they are chastized.
that's right. doesn't matter the forum. BTF, LTH, ABT, BDC...that's the nature of online chat.
The nature of online chat, is lies and wild accusations, directed at a percieved situation that may not in fact exist. Like the news media that is reporting with so called accuracy not truth.
Quote from: Rizzo on February 17, 2008, 04:33:51 PM
Quote from: Bonster on February 16, 2008, 09:52:52 AM
Quote from: Rizzo on February 16, 2008, 09:18:40 AMIt is said that more persons need to be involved. But, when someone announces involvement on the BTF they are chastized.
that's right. doesn't matter the forum. BTF, LTH, ABT, BDC...that's the nature of online chat.
The nature of online chat, is lies and wild accusations, directed at a percieved situation that may not in fact exist.
Quote from: Rizzo on February 17, 2008, 04:44:04 PM
Quote from: Rizzo on February 17, 2008, 04:33:51 PM
Quote from: Bonster on February 16, 2008, 09:52:52 AM
Quote from: Rizzo on February 16, 2008, 09:18:40 AMIt is said that more persons need to be involved. But, when someone announces involvement on the BTF they are chastized.
that's right. doesn't matter the forum. BTF, LTH, ABT, BDC...that's the nature of online chat.
The nature of online chat, is lies and wild accusations, directed at a percieved situation that may not in fact exist.
Sure, it can be like that...depends on who's talking.
Is that in your nature? :666:
Where is this leading?
Quote from: EC on February 14, 2008, 07:31:48 AM
The no votes were 1,2,6 & 7. Some aldermen thought there was too much information to sift through in a short amount of time and therefore felt that they could not vote effectively.
The agendas show the budget was given to Alderman in November and on the COW agenda Nov. 27, Dec.11, Jan 8 and Jan 22and the Feb. 11 agenda lists a discussion of the budget process. IMO, it seems the budget was distrubuted in a timely manner allowing for discussion and debate.
Quote from: Rizzo on February 18, 2008, 05:54:58 AM
Where is this leading?
don' t know. i was following you. :'(
Terri writes:
"The agendas show the budget was given to Alderman in November and on the COW agenda Nov. 27, Dec.11, Jan 8 and Jan 22and the Feb. 11 agenda lists a discussion of the budget process. IMO, it seems the budget was distrubuted in a timely manner allowing for discussion and debate."
These are the people we elected and who want to continue to be elected. This is what we wanted, right?
Here's the problem: The budget was emailed to the Alderman, and since certain aldermen have problems reading email, they didn't have time.
:)
Quote from: Bonster on February 18, 2008, 08:24:27 AM
Terri writes:
"The agendas show the budget was given to Alderman in November and on the COW agenda Nov. 27, Dec.11, Jan 8 and Jan 22and the Feb. 11 agenda lists a discussion of the budget process. IMO, it seems the budget was distrubuted in a timely manner allowing for discussion and debate."
These are the people we elected and who want to continue to be elected. This is what we wanted, right?
Here's the problem: The budget was emailed to the Alderman, and since certain aldermen have problems reading email, they didn't have time.
:)
Oh, ok. Seems like a logical answer.