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Community Chat => Education and Schools => Topic started by: JLM430 on May 15, 2014, 06:12:57 PM

Title: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-100-of
Post by: JLM430 on May 15, 2014, 06:12:57 PM
Anyone know any more about this? My son is there,  incident took place last week Wednesday.  Not a word thus far from the school or the district. Lots of rumors,  though. Don't think it's right that there is no explanation for her firing.

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Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: MRS. NORTHSIDER on May 15, 2014, 06:54:30 PM
Quote from: JLM430 on May 15, 2014, 06:12:57 PM
Anyone know any more about this? My son is there,  incident took place last week Wednesday.  Not a word thus far from the school or the district. Lots of rumors,  though. Don't think it's right that there is no explanation for her firing.

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Incident - what incident?  District 100 board members should be right out in front of why she was fired considering their shortcomings in the past when it came to wrongdoing in the district.  Most likely, they are consulting attorneys about their possible negligence and responsibility before addressing the parents who are concerned about their children and taxpayers who pay the taxes and bills in this district.  I wish I could say I was surprised by their response (or lack of it) but, unfortunately I am not.   I am appalled by their total lack of giving a crap about the people (parents and kids) they are elected to represent.  They need to explain why Laura LaSalle was fired right away to give the parents of the children in the district who attend Heritage a reason to send their kids to school tomorrow.  Any school district in a more affluent school district would demand no less but hey this is Berwyn.  I guess our kids just don't matter as much.
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: JLM430 on May 15, 2014, 08:24:11 PM
When I say incident,  I am referring to her being escorted from the building.  My son was not at school on the day it happened,  he was at rehearsal for the D100 musical. If it weren't for the fact that another parent volunteer telling me,  I still wouldn't be aware.

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Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: MRS. NORTHSIDER on May 15, 2014, 09:46:15 PM
Quote from: JLM430 on May 15, 2014, 08:24:11 PM
When I say incident,  I am referring to her being escorted from the building.  My son was not at school on the day it happened,  he was at rehearsal for the D100 musical. If it weren't for the fact that another parent volunteer telling me,  I still wouldn't be aware.

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The school board needs to explain what happened - period.  Do not leave it up to the parents of the kids in the district to sit and wait and wonder.  Rumor and innuendo is most likely worse than the truth.
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: watcher on May 16, 2014, 09:10:23 AM
http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-100-officials-decline-to-comment/a89bm9e/ (http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-100-officials-decline-to-comment/a89bm9e/)

Clearly something snapped. The rumor mill will fill the void until a settlement of some kind is reached.
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: Roger on May 16, 2014, 11:32:03 PM
There is a nasty rumor circulating as to why she was fired.  But that's just what it is..... a rumor. If there is any validity to the rumor, I am sure that an explanation for the firing will be given soon.
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: MRS. NORTHSIDER on May 17, 2014, 11:49:51 PM
Quote from: Roger on May 16, 2014, 11:32:03 PM
There is a nasty rumor circulating as to why she was fired.  But that's just what it is..... a rumor. If there is any validity to the rumor, I am sure that an explanation for the firing will be given soon.
Nasty rumors need to be explained if they are just rumors.  Again, School District 100 officials need to face this head on and give an explanation of why Laura LaSalle was fired instead of letting rumors take over.  What in the hell did she do, or not do?  Again, I am just dumbfounded by the lack of communication from District 100 Superintendent Stan Fields and Distrct 100 Board Members regarding this situation. 

Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: Roger on May 19, 2014, 12:44:28 AM
Maybe before they say anything they want to make sure that certain allegations are indeed true.  That's my guess.
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: Ted on May 19, 2014, 09:35:53 AM
Quote from: Roger on May 16, 2014, 11:32:03 PM
.... I am sure that an explanation for the firing will be given soon.

Because this is a personnel matter, school board members are not going to give a public reason for the dismissal.

 
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: dukesdad on May 19, 2014, 09:43:33 AM
QuoteNasty rumors need to be explained if they are just rumors

Why?
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: JLM430 on May 19, 2014, 10:59:01 AM
As a parent with a student in the school, I believe that we have a right to know if our students were put at risk or short-changed because of the actions/behaviors of Mrs. LaSalle. As a tax payer I believe that all Berwyn property owners have a right to know, essentially we were her employers. Certainly, I understand the need for the district to protect itself from lawsuits, but to be vague seems irresponsible. There are ways around the legal issue, use of phrases such as: suspicion of, under investigation, alleged misconduct, etc. could be used to give an explanation. 

The only information regarding the firing on the BOE website is vague. Plus, you have to search out the Administrator Contract information if you want to see what is referred to, as Administrator contracts are not readily available on the BOE website.

Link to the meeting minutes:

https://v3.boardbook.org/Public/PublicItemDownload.aspx?mk=50117863&fn=notice.pdf (https://v3.boardbook.org/Public/PublicItemDownload.aspx?mk=50117863&fn=notice.pdf)

Link to the contract:

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1030086-berywn-100-administrator-contracts.html (http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1030086-berywn-100-administrator-contracts.html)

I personally have heard rumors from more than one source regarding misappropriation of school funds, but they are just that rumors. In light of the referendums that BSD100 tried to pass for more of our money, if these rumors are true, I would certainly be interested in knowing what that meant for Heritage students and how and when restitution will take place.
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: dukesdad on May 19, 2014, 11:44:14 AM
I think you have a right to know when the matter has been resolved. You have no right to be involved in it's resolution. If you'd like to be involved, run for school board. More importantly, get elected.
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Post by: mustang54 on May 19, 2014, 12:03:33 PM
Quote from: dukesdad on May 19, 2014, 11:44:14 AM
I think you have a right to know when the matter has been resolved. You have no right to be involved in it's resolution. If you'd like to be involved, run for school board. More importantly, get elected.
I think the person being fired means its already been resolved. If the other employees know why then why shouldn't tax paying parents be told. If teachers tell young grammar school students in the classroom when they ask why, why not tell the parents? This is more of the usual bullshit of school administrators and school boards using the excuse of legal issues to cover their own ass from an embarrassing situation by an employee who is an administrator.
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: JLM430 on May 19, 2014, 12:11:11 PM
I would agree,  the firing does signal a resolution,  so why not explain it?

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Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: watcher on May 19, 2014, 01:29:19 PM
Quote from: JLM430 on May 19, 2014, 12:11:11 PM
I would agree,  the firing does signal a resolution,  so why not explain it?

The firing signals an action. For the protection of all the parties, or more apt, to minimize the litigation surely to follow, information goes through channels (read: past the lawyers) before being released. It's unlikely that teachers are passing along official information to students. There is probably language in their contract prohibiting such things.

Stan Fields is well aware of the kinds of talk that can wind up costing big money. He took D209 for plenty.

Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: MRS. NORTHSIDER on May 19, 2014, 06:39:07 PM
Since no answers are forthcoming from District 100, I asked my daughter, who is a student at Heritage, if she knew about the firing.  She replied yes.  I asked if she knew why and she said that she heard that she had stolen money from the district.  A friend of my daughter's from school asked a teacher about the firing and the teacher told her this.  My next question is - why hasn't she been charged with a crime?  My next question after that is - why did I have to hear this from my daughter? 
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: jfrickind on May 19, 2014, 07:21:01 PM
There is no doubt that the teachers are under a strict gag order.  If a student heard it from a teacher then more than likely the teacher is spreading a rumor and it needs to be stopped.  Not for the sake of the administrator but because if it wasn't an administrator - maybe a pregnant 8th grader - you wouldn't want the rumor spread.  The details will come out once everything is finalized.  Until then, go to the source; the Board of Education should be the people you call and demand answers from.  Not from teachers OR students.  Do not foster the spreading of rumors.

Everyone wants an immediate answer but that can't always happen.
Title: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-100-of
Post by: chandasz on May 19, 2014, 07:35:28 PM
She was not escorted out by police. She was escorted out by Stan. The fact that they are not clarifying this seems libelous. I've worked with her all year on DACEE and do not believe for a minute she did anything illegal. If she had - the police would have been called and would have been called when all this buzz started. Please write letters demanding a public forum about this. And come to the school board meeting on May 28
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: MRS. NORTHSIDER on May 19, 2014, 08:33:55 PM
Quote from: chandasz on May 19, 2014, 07:35:28 PM
She was not escorted out by police. She was escorted out by Stan. The fact that they are not clarifying this seems libelous. I've worked with her all year on DACEE and do not believe for a minute she did anything illegal. If she had - the police would have been called and would have been called when all this buzz started. Please write letters demanding a public forum about this. And come to the school board meeting on May 28
School District 100 officials need to let the parents of children in the district know what is going on.  Any school district in the Chicagoland area where they had parents who were lawyers would have done this without a doubt.  This is a disgrace.
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Post by: markberwyn on May 20, 2014, 06:51:58 AM
Quote from: chandasz on May 19, 2014, 07:35:28 PM
She was not escorted out by police. She was escorted out by Stan. The fact that they are not clarifying this seems libelous.

Not clarifying this doesn't have a thing to do with libel. Recklessly delivering false information that can harm a person's reputation, however....

Has anybody bothered to see if she's been charged with anything?
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: dukesdad on May 20, 2014, 09:55:38 AM
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School District 100 officials need to let the parents of children in the district know what is going on.

Why? If it doesn't affect the health and welfare of the kids, you're just being nosey.
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: Ted on May 21, 2014, 12:19:37 PM
Quote from: dukesdad on May 20, 2014, 09:55:38 AM
Why? If it doesn't affect the health and welfare of the kids, you're just being nosey.

What if the dismissal was due (hypothetically) to something affecting the health or welfare of the kids?

  Would parents then have a right to know why the dismissal occurred?

(Let me be clear - I am asking a hypothetical question. I know nothing about this particular dismissal except for the rumors).
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: MRS. NORTHSIDER on May 21, 2014, 09:51:32 PM
Quote from: Ted on May 21, 2014, 12:19:37 PM
Quote from: dukesdad on May 20, 2014, 09:55:38 AM
Why? If it doesn't affect the health and welfare of the kids, you're just being nosey.

What if the dismissal was due (hypothetically) to something affecting the health or welfare of the kids?

  Would parents then have a right to know why the dismissal occurred?

(Let me be clear - I am asking a hypothetical question. I know nothing about this particular dismissal except for the rumors).
District 100 has a habit of ignoring wrongdoing when it happens in their backyard so excuse me if I am skeptical.
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: mustang54 on May 21, 2014, 10:03:22 PM
Quote from: chandasz on May 19, 2014, 07:35:28 PM
She was not escorted out by police. She was escorted out by Stan. The fact that they are not clarifying this seems libelous. I've worked with her all year on DACEE and do not believe for a minute she did anything illegal. If she had - the police would have been called and would have been called when all this buzz started. Please write letters demanding a public forum about this. And come to the school board meeting on May 28
The practice in schools around here is to have students arrested for wrong doing but not school employees.
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: MRS. NORTHSIDER on May 23, 2014, 09:47:29 PM
Quote from: dukesdad on May 20, 2014, 09:55:38 AM
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School District 100 officials need to let the parents of children in the district know what is going on.

Why? If it doesn't affect the health and welfare of the kids, you're just being nosey.
No, I'm just being a District 100 parent who doesn't know if it will effect the health and welfare of my child so I want answers from School District 100 officials - the board members whom I elected and the administrators they employed along down to the person they found fit to head my child's school.  I expect that of anyone associated with my children's education and if I was a betting person I think there are many other parents who feel the same way I do.
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: Mustang84 on May 28, 2014, 08:56:50 PM
Quote from: chandasz on May 19, 2014, 07:35:28 PM
She was not escorted out by police. She was escorted out by Stan. The fact that they are not clarifying this seems libelous. I've worked with her all year on DACEE and do not believe for a minute she did anything illegal. If she had - the police would have been called and would have been called when all this buzz started. Please write letters demanding a public forum about this. And come to the school board meeting on May 28

wow, aren't you the biggest 100 supporter? you will soon fall from grace now that you question the all powerful Stan.
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: chandasz on May 29, 2014, 12:34:14 PM
I am a D100 supporter- I am not necessarily a Stan supporter. I am hugely supportive of the kids in D100 and of the staff that I know work their tail off.

I don't support things blindly and if I see something I don't like- I will absolutely say something. And I don't like this.

I also admit that I don't know what happened to lead to her dismissal but I have worked with her all year on DACEE and cannot believe that she would do anything illegal or "that bad". She was so incredibly dedicated to what she was doing with "her kids" and the Accelerated learning kids.
Title: Re: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/05/13/heritage-middle-school-principal-terminated-district-10
Post by: MRS. NORTHSIDER on May 31, 2014, 11:07:52 PM
I received a robocall from District 100 yesterday and more specifically from, Sue Butler, who has been named interim principal of Heritage Middle School.  She stated that she has been with District 100 for 27 years and I do remember her as one of my older daughter's teachers when she was a student at Heritage.  While I have no doubt she is certainly well qualified and capable of this position, I still would like to know the reasons for former Principal Laura LaSalle's dismissal or firing from officials from School District 100.