Hi.
As we speak, my neighbors right next door have set up turntables and cranked up the speakers very loud.
And, they are unloading and setting up an extra grill with several canisters of gas and have a spit going already...
And there are already at least 25 people out in the yard.
So, it looks like they are gearing up for a very long, and loud evening.
What do I do???
It's early - only 7 p.m. - so I guess I don't have a late noise complaint to call in about.
But, what I'm worried about is this is what it's going to be like all summer.
Last night, I had to be Gladys Kravitz and call Berwyn's finest because there was a big ole domestic dispute on the front porch. I really don't care about the ass-hat adults, but there were two very small children crying and screaming, so I had to call the police.
I really would like to be able to sit out in my back yard or on my front porch this summer, but I'm afraid these a-holes have hijacked the serenity that I used to enjoy with my old neighbors.
What do I do???? Honestly, I'm afraid of these people, because I seriously think there is some shady stuff going on here...e.g. many cars always stopping by in the alley for brief periods of time and I honestly have no idea who actually lives there...so many people coming and going all the time.
I'm really, really annoyed right now. I wish you all could hear how loud it is and I'm inside with all the windows closed.
I sympathize, we've got a couple of what I call "hell houses" on our block too. You don't have to wait until 11pm to call in a noise complaint. What we've done is talk to other neighbors who are being bothered by the noise too and get them to call in also. I can hear music going outside...maybe it's coming from your block. I'm around 25th and Euclid.
Here's the link to the noise ordinance:
http://www.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Illinois/berwyn/cityofberwynillinoiscodeofordinances?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:berwyn_il
Being Saturday night, I would probably give them to 11:00 P.M., then start calling
the police.
You definitely should report any little suspicious activity coming or going at that house.
The police can start keeping an eye out and maybe even park that big white van on your
block.
I agree with giving them until 11:00 before calling the police. First party of the year and all that. I suggest that you call Commander James Sassetti at 795-5600 ext 3150 and let him know of the shady goings on. He has always been helpful regarding that kind of stuff in my area. Marge
do a rain dance ;D
I was raised to have music on at a volume that does not disturb our neighbors as a sign of respect. Berwyn houses are just too close to be able to choose your own decibel of loudness. I enforce that with my kids as well, but see many a neighbor older than me that thinks I want to hear their music in my yard, or better yet, while in my house.
Quote from: Homebody on May 07, 2011, 08:03:54 PM
I agree with giving them until 11:00 before calling the police. First party of the year and all that. I suggest that you call Commander James Sassetti at 795-5600 ext 3150 and let him know of the shady goings on. He has always been helpful regarding that kind of stuff in my area. Marge
+1
Quote from: Fer on May 07, 2011, 07:06:06 PM
Hi.
As we speak, my neighbors right next door have set up turntables and cranked up the speakers very loud.
And, they are unloading and setting up an extra grill with several canisters of gas and have a spit going already...
And there are already at least 25 people out in the yard.
So, it looks like they are gearing up for a very long, and loud evening.
What do I do???
It's early - only 7 p.m. - so I guess I don't have a late noise complaint to call in about.
But, what I'm worried about is this is what it's going to be like all summer.
Last night, I had to be Gladys Kravitz and call Berwyn's finest because there was a big ole domestic dispute on the front porch. I really don't care about the ass-hat adults, but there were two very small children crying and screaming, so I had to call the police.
I really would like to be able to sit out in my back yard or on my front porch this summer, but I'm afraid these a-holes have hijacked the serenity that I used to enjoy with my old neighbors.
What do I do???? Honestly, I'm afraid of these people, because I seriously think there is some shady stuff going on here...e.g. many cars always stopping by in the alley for brief periods of time and I honestly have no idea who actually lives there...so many people coming and going all the time.
I'm really, really annoyed right now. I wish you all could hear how loud it is and I'm inside with all the windows closed.
I feel your pain and encourage you to keep calling PD anytime you see any manner of 'suspicous/shady' activity in progress. Also, do report your observations in general to Commander James Sassetti. As to the noise -- good luck. With all due respect to Berwyn PD -- some officers seem to take this kind of complaint more seriously than others and some will simply 'advise' the offenders to lower the volume. Of course,it usually gets jacked up again a short time after officers leave the block. Then we have what I call the "Its a 'family party' excuse -- which seemingly gives the host and guests the right to disturb a whole neighbor for hours on end... I know officers can only do so much, but also do wish that the ordiance that is in place would be enforced -- no exceptions. - and no acceptance of plain disrespect of the rights of others to peace and quiet. I dream on...
We went out to dinner to get away from the noise for awhile & we're back home now & it's even louder & there are even more people out there...10 feet from where I'm typing this.
It's truly out of hand. We're giving them until 10 p.m. & we're calling the policia.
The thump-thump-thump of the base is so loud even inside of the house...
How can anyone think this is OK???
Our poor dog has been so stressed all night. And the 2 cats look p.o.'d, too.
Damnit, I paid too much for my house to have to put up with this crap and feel like a prisoner inside of it. I'm so angry right now...
Thanks for allowing me to vent, oh good people of BTF! And I appreciate your suggestions, etc.!!!! I truly do.
Grrrrrrr......
May I ask what end of town you are on? My hubby was out walking the dog just a short time ago and said that someone was definetly have a party not far from us. Could hear the music very clearly. We are on the south end of town.
Fer is on the south end of town near East.
I'd call the BPD, and if you are friendly with any other neighbors, give them a call and have them call the BPD as well.
Quote from: Fer on May 07, 2011, 09:15:22 PM
It's truly out of hand. We're giving them until 10 p.m. & we're calling the policia.
The thump-thump-thump of the base is so loud even inside of the house...
How can anyone think this is OK???
Our poor dog has been so stressed all night. And the 2 cats look p.o.'d, too.
The dog is sensing your stress more than the bass thumping.
I agree on the 11pm thing, esp if it's just one party and not a regular occurrence.
But if it's that loud I'd call, too. Block your caller ID and say you're calling from two blocks away.
If these are new neighbors changing the landscape a message has to be sent that this is not how people live in YOUR neighborhood.
Well, we did call BPD. They did come to the alley of these idiots' house & I guess they told them to knock it off. That was around 11:40 or so. but around 11:20, I guess we'd both had enough. S.O. went out in the yard and asked them (semi-politely) to please turn it down as we were trying to sleep. About 10 minutes later, I'd HAD it! I went out in the yard and yelled over the fence "ENOUGH!" I had to do so several teams before they could hear me over the bass! One of the women sitting at a table yelled, "HOW RUDE!" at me! Which was...I don't know...is the word ironic? About 10 minutes later, the police showed up and it did get quiet.
I plan to go over to the neighbors on the other side today to ask them what they think. We've met them a few times; they seem nice. I know that they like to sit out on their backyard deck when it's nice out, too.
But with these idiots in place now, summer does not seem like it's going to be conducive to enjoying our yards! It seems that almost every weekend that it's been nice out, they have lots of people over and cook out in the yard. The music has not been like this as of yet, and I certainly hope it was a one-time thing, but...I'm worried.
My S.O. is the one who snow blows the entire block for these a-holes. While they seemed appreciative, and yes, they even gave us a gift cert. to a local chain restaurant, I feel that this is just unacceptable. How could anyone think that this is OK to crank up music like that? As someone pointed out here, the houses are just too close. Maybe if they had come over earlier and said, "hey, we're having a birthday/anniversary/whatever party tonight, and it may get loud, and we're sorry, but we'll try to keep it down," things might be different...
But now I fear we have a real enemy next door. No way to live.
Thanks for listening. Now it's time to blast some Aerosmith/Stones/Led Zeppelin out of the speakers we've placed strategically in the window facing north! (not really...but we thought about it...)
Call,Call,Call the police dept. we had a similar situation finally they are gone.Whats reallying interesting some of the neighbors were scared shitless to call the police fearing repercussions.Forming a small group of neighbors finally did the job someone would call on every little thing that this person did.We have rights as residents, we just can't let a group of low lives take over.
What do you do when the noisy neighbors are dogs barking all mf afternoon, evening and sometimes night long?
It's hard to enjoy your backyard when you all you hear "wooof woooof". Of course, the owners don't want to bring their dogs in the house b/c IT MAKES TOO MUCH NOISE so they let 'em outside to destroy the neighbor's chi.
I hear you on the neighbors, I'm all for freedom of the individual but that must be balanced when you live so close to one another to respect the rights of the others living close to you. But the respect must be mutual.
Quote from: berwyn senator on May 08, 2011, 08:05:58 AM
Whats reallying interesting some of the neighbors were scared shitless to call the police fearing repercussions.
Yep.
When they say they don't want to get involved, that's the real reason.
Quote from: berwyn senator on May 08, 2011, 08:05:58 AM
Whats reallying interesting some of the neighbors were scared shitless to call the police fearing repercussions. Forming a small group of neighbors finally did the job someone would call on every little thing that this person did.
That is the key: community cohesiveness. When you're the only household ruining the fun you become the target. When multiple households
gang up (yep) on the offenders their malice is spread thin. Being or having a good neighborhood watch block captain helps. Or just getting to know your neighbors, period.
Quote from: buzz on May 08, 2011, 09:04:26 AM
Quote from: berwyn senator on May 08, 2011, 08:05:58 AM
Whats reallying interesting some of the neighbors were scared shitless to call the police fearing repercussions.
Yep.
When they say they don't want to get involved, that's the real reason.
Yes, I'm actually kind of scared, because, as I think I've mentioned, there is also some shady stuff going on at this house every day. We have no idea who actually lives there because there are always so many people coming and going. And a lot of people pull up in the alley, visit for awhile, and then leave. The guy who owns the home works on cars in the garage a lot, and there are kids always shooting hoops in the space in front of the garage. I worry about the kids at this house; there are always at least 3 or 4 running around.
OK...I'm rambling now. I'm still angry and worried. I just want to be able to hang out on my front porch and in my backyard when I feel like it...
Quote from: Bonster on May 08, 2011, 09:12:24 AM
Quote from: berwyn senator on May 08, 2011, 08:05:58 AM
Whats reallying interesting some of the neighbors were scared shitless to call the police fearing repercussions. Forming a small group of neighbors finally did the job someone would call on every little thing that this person did.
That is the key: community cohesiveness. When you're the only household ruining the fun you become the target. When multiple households gang up (yep) on the offenders their malice is spread thin. Being or having a good neighborhood watch block captain helps. Or just getting to know your neighbors, period.
Yeah, you're right, Bonster. I am going to visit the neighbor on the other side and express just this.
I feel bad for you. If they're out last night blasting music like that when it was in the low 40's I can only imagine what will happen when we have some beautiful summer days. I left work around 11 last night and it was pretty chilly - I think my car listed the temp as 40 outside. Yes, try and enlist your neighbors, I can't imagine very many people on your block could have been OK with this and how about the people on the next block who share the alley. Also, if this guy is out there in the garage working on other people's vehicles I think that could be considered a business and is not allowed. Another tactic might be to set up your speakers directly at their windows and start playing some really loud gospel music and religious services EARLY in the morning if it's a Sunday after their shenanigans when they are probably trying to sleep if off and tell them you're just practicing your freedom of religion. Yeah, I know the other neighbors might not be thrilled but if they're on the same page as you they might not mind.
I feel bad for you. I have had the same problem as well. I use to live on Lombard and 12th and there would be parties next door all the time for no reason. of all the parties they have it was getting annoying. Music would be always loud and I mean you can hear it down the block loud. we called the cops at 7 and they came and the cops did something about it. then like you said they always turn the music down but 10 minutes later they will go and turn it back up. well for my safety I listen to a police scanner and well 10 minutes later I happen to hear the people who were having the parties address and I was laughing because other people were getting pissed off too. not to be disrespectful to Hispanics but there are good ones and then there are the rude ones. I mean these neighbors were just awful. dogs not on leashes and I called the cops about that one day and I almost got arrested because i said something to the lady. If you are gonna have your dog run around with no leash and then try to bite my dog, im going to say something to you. BAck to the music. You know all of us in the world are on different schedules. Its sad that you can't get any sleep because of the loud music. MY mom works nights and sleeps during the day time and if we still lived over on Lombard she wouldnt get any sleep with so much noise they make. I think Berwyn needs to do more about it instead of letting them get away with it. First time should be a warning for music second time it should be a $500 dollar fine for depending on how loud it is. Sorry this is so long but this is made me want to write down what I felt. I really feel bad for you FER.
Quote from: MRS. NORTHSIDER on May 08, 2011, 10:24:30 AM
Another tactic might be to set up your speakers directly at their windows and start playing some really loud gospel music and religious services EARLY in the morning if it's a Sunday after their shenanigans when they are probably trying to sleep if off and tell them you're just practicing your freedom of religion. Yeah, I know the other neighbors might not be thrilled but if they're on the same page as you they might not mind.
I found that the Barney theme played over and over at high volume from speakers facing offenders' bedroom windows was quite effective. Neighbors didn't mind the volume as much as they did the song...but they understood the desperation that prompted the action.
Quote from: Fer on May 08, 2011, 09:14:06 AM
Quote from: buzz on May 08, 2011, 09:04:26 AM
Quote from: berwyn senator on May 08, 2011, 08:05:58 AM
Whats reallying interesting some of the neighbors were scared shitless to call the police fearing repercussions.
Yep.
When they say they don't want to get involved, that's the real reason.
Yes, I'm actually kind of scared, because, as I think I've mentioned, there is also some shady stuff going on at this house every day. We have no idea who actually lives there because there are always so many people coming and going. And a lot of people pull up in the alley, visit for awhile, and then leave. The guy who owns the home works on cars in the garage a lot, and there are kids always shooting hoops in the space in front of the garage. I worry about the kids at this house; there are always at least 3 or 4 running around.
OK...I'm rambling now. I'm still angry and worried. I just want to be able to hang out on my front porch and in my backyard when I feel like it...
Please call Berwyn PD and share your observations and concerns with Commander James Sassetti. Any detailed info you can provide will help the officers who
will be assigned to keep an eye on the area. You absolutely deserve not only a sense of safety in and around your own home -- but we are also all entitled to a quiet and clean neighborhood for ourselves and our families to enjoy.
Please call and arrange to speak with Commander Sassetti. You will feel a lot better after doing so. If you have a Neighborhood Watch Block Captain - also relay your observations and concerns to him or her. Berwyn PD can tell you whether you have a block captain and provde contact information. If you do not have one, considering singing on yourself. It is not an extraordinary time commitment and you will be helping ensure that sense of safety, as well as peace and quiet.
Quote from: berwyn senator on May 08, 2011, 08:05:58 AM
Call,Call,Call the police dept. we had a similar situation finally they are gone.Whats reallying interesting some of the neighbors were scared shitless to call the police fearing repercussions.Forming a small group of neighbors finally did the job someone would call on every little thing that this person did.We have rights as residents, we just can't let a group of low lives take over.
Bravo and well put! By not making it easy for the thugs or the terminally ill-mannered do as they please our neighborhoods will not be so attractive to them anymore.
It is very sad indeed that many of us actually cannot enjoy being out of doors on our property due to completely discrespectful people who, for some reason, do not seem to mind broadcasting their ignorance far and wide -- being it by playing recorded music very loud, having live bands set up in their yard to play until the wee hours (especially on Sunday nights...????), or very loud talking/swearing - up to and including conversations on their cell phones which hapless neighbors are subjected to both sides of the conversation....
For one thing, I think live music in a residential neighborhood needs to be completly prohibited for any reason. If people need to have a huge party and want that kind of entertainment -- they can rent a hall. I also think that outdoor parties of a certain number of people (say, more than 10), with or without recorded music, needs to be a 'permit only' affair.
Just because our lot sizes are fairly small here in Berwyn should not mean we have to accept having our peace disturbed, at any time of day or night, by disrespectful neighbors - no exceptions.
A similar situation existed a few years ago,the music was so loud it could be heard four blocks away.My one neighbor called the police,telling the we could not speak to each other in our own back yards.The police came the noise stopped,as soon as the squad left back up again we all started calling,back came the squad,same thing happened.Finally one senior called telling the police if the noise doesn't stop he was going over and blow up the house and everyone around it,he also mentioned that he was an explosive expert in the service.Done ,several cops came ,quiet at last.The sad issue is we have to put up with this gargage in our neighborhood,also the issue we are taking the police away from more important things.
I think we got the "live music" thingy goin on right now ... area heard ... between 26th Street and the IC tracks ... between Home and Oak Park Ave. Sounds like a good band but I could only imagine the effect if they were right next door to me. Unless this is some kinda band at Janura ... and I'm hearing that?
We put up with a bar on 39th. street for years,the noise on Wednesday,Friday, and Saturday was so loud our windows would shake upstairs.Parking was next to impossible on our blocks in Berwyn,cars raced through our alleys and streets.Slickney would do nothing even approaching Stickneys mayor was a waste.Drunks were noisy coming and going, empty bottles on our lawns,one couple were on a neighbors front lawn doing what came naturally.Berwyn police did every thing they could responding every time when someone called,even patrolling our blocks,at times with several squads.Stickney police were ignorant and abusive,one problem was our resident parking signs were put up leaving out Saturday night. No one in town would help,almost four years later the signs were finally changed,so did the administration,finally quiet,and soon thereafter the bar was gone.I am not a political person but thank you Democratic party for helping our neighborhood.
Fer, certain "unexplainable events" were known to happen, not often mind you, but occasionally, as the "need" arose, back in the day....events carefully aimed at maintaining order amongst the neighbors. Retaliation on the receiver's part was known to them to NOT be an option.........
For example, one nasty guy's cadillac got a good "stoning", middle of the night, and he quickly "took notice", and mended his aggravating ways......
Police were hardly ever involved, not even after the "mending" took place......see, it t'warn't obvious just who the "perps" were........
Mind you, now, this is not construable as advice, simply "reminiscence" of how it was.........berwynson
Quote from: ~LL~ on May 08, 2011, 06:55:25 PM
It is very sad indeed that many of us actually cannot enjoy being out of doors on our property due to completely discrespectful people who, for some reason, do not seem to mind broadcasting their ignorance far and wide -- being it by playing recorded music very loud, having live bands set up in their yard to play until the wee hours (especially on Sunday nights...????), or very loud talking/swearing - up to and including conversations on their cell phones which hapless neighbors are subjected to both sides of the conversation....
For one thing, I think live music in a residential neighborhood needs to be completly prohibited for any reason. If people need to have a huge party and want that kind of entertainment -- they can rent a hall. I also think that outdoor parties of a certain number of people (say, more than 10), with or without recorded music, needs to be a 'permit only' affair.
Just because our lot sizes are fairly small here in Berwyn should not mean we have to accept having our peace disturbed, at any time of day or night, by disrespectful neighbors - no exceptions.
I don't agree with the permit thing. If I have some friends over, and a few more drop by, suddenly I'm going to get a ticket for sitting on my own property?
100% agree with the live band. Both bands and loud music should be handled under an existing noise ordinance.
People have cell phones...we could set up a calling tree and have multiple people complain about the noise.
Quote from: ~LL~ on May 08, 2011, 06:55:25 PM
It is very sad indeed that many of us actually cannot enjoy being out of doors on our property due to completely discrespectful people who, for some reason, do not seem to mind broadcasting their ignorance far and wide -- being it by playing recorded music very loud, having live bands set up in their yard to play until the wee hours (especially on Sunday nights...????), or very loud talking/swearing - up to and including conversations on their cell phones which hapless neighbors are subjected to both sides of the conversation....
For one thing, I think live music in a residential neighborhood needs to be completly prohibited for any reason. If people need to have a huge party and want that kind of entertainment -- they can rent a hall. I also think that outdoor parties of a certain number of people (say, more than 10), with or without recorded music, needs to be a 'permit only' affair.
Just because our lot sizes are fairly small here in Berwyn should not mean we have to accept having our peace disturbed, at any time of day or night, by disrespectful neighbors - no exceptions.
One can say the same thing about quite neighbors. They are mf neurotic, anti-social and plain ol' borderline mentally disturbed people who can't accept others having fun.
I once had a downstairs neighbor who had mf mad parties at all days of the week (college students) while I worked 7-7... you know what I did? I joined 'em! :666:
Now, if this happens all the time, I agree, it is disturbing... but if it happens every once in a while and they are otherwise, good neighbors, then just chill out. Let 'em party until the sun comes up, and once the sun comes up, wait 10 minutes and start up your lawnmower, weed whacker and leaf blower. :666: muhahahahah :666:
I really appreciate hearing from all of you about this. And I like some of your suggestions on what to do about it. OPS - I like the phone tree idea. And the gospel and/or Barney music first thing in the a.m. after a party - great!
I paid good money for my home, and have put a lot of $$ into since I moved here almost 8 years ago. I have earned the right to sit out in my own backyard or on my front porch in relative peace and quiet and safety. We've had a few parties over the years, but I would never, ever crank up the music or keep it going until all hours. It's called common courtesy, I believe.
Yesterday morning, we took the dog for a walk and did talk to a few neighbors. We met one couple who are the nicest people in the whole world; I feel like I've wasted a lot of time not getting to know them before now! Found out A LOT about other people on the block/in our 'hood, even the low lifes who live next door! So, it seems that this person is one of the "black sheep" of the family, etc., etc. And doesn't own the home; just rents. And there are multiple families living there.
And, I will definitely be calling Officer Sassetti. Maybe if these jerks see police cars cruising around their place a lot, it may curtail some of their nonsense.
Thanks again, people. I'll let you know what develops over what I fear is going to be a loooooonnnngggg summer!
We had neighbors who would go out at night damaging cars of the irresponsible people most never noticed and would just leave.
When the Berwyn Police sent foot patrols to ticket the offenders each night they started getting the message,and the patrols really helped,especially when the police would flash their lights, they did an excellent job.Lack of parking caused a hardship on the bar an patrons stopped comming.
Quote from: berwyn senator on May 08, 2011, 07:34:26 PM
The sad issue is we have to put up with this gargage in our neighborhood,also the issue we are taking the police away from more important things.
Very much agree that I do not like it at all that our only recourse at times is to use valuable law enforcement time due to those who blatantly refuse to even try to be a good neighbor.
Quote from: OakParkSpartan on May 08, 2011, 09:28:28 PM
Quote from: ~LL~ on May 08, 2011, 06:55:25 PM
Just because our lot sizes are fairly small here in Berwyn should not mean we have to accept having our peace disturbed, at any time of day or night, by disrespectful neighbors - no exceptions.
I don't agree with the permit thing. If I have some friends over, and a few more drop by, suddenly I'm going to get a ticket for sitting on my own property?
100% agree with the live band. Both bands and loud music should be handled under an existing noise ordinance.
People have cell phones...we could set up a calling tree and have multiple people complain about the noise.
I do see your point on this situation, OPS. My beef is really with those "family gatherings" that entail way more than 25 people outside - with more added as the evening progresses.
Phone tree = great idea and it does help if more than one resident calls PD to complain.
Quote from: billyjean on May 08, 2011, 07:40:04 PM
I think we got the "live music" thingy goin on right now ... area heard ... between 26th Street and the IC tracks ... between Home and Oak Park Ave. Sounds like a good band but I could only imagine the effect if they were right next door to me. Unless this is some kinda band at Janura ... and I'm hearing that?
You are hearing the fiesta put on my our fine neighbors in Cicero -- at their Community Park...yes! Does no good at all to complain about the volume or placement of the sound systems that propell their music and speeches down the tracks and into our community. To the best of my knowledge, we don't inflict noise from our events on Cicero residents...but, who cares?
I enjoyed the Fiesta music from Cicero, plus it was off by 9 or earlier. I see a huge difference between a community event and a single home that is blasting music, but that's me.
Quote from: dukesdad on May 09, 2011, 10:44:24 AM
I enjoyed the Fiesta music from Cicero, plus it was off by 9 or earlier. I see a huge difference between a community event and a single home that is blasting music, but that's me.
+1. I live directly adjacent to St. Leonard and they have their FallFest with music every year that is pretty loud for us considering how close we live and we have no problem whatsoever with it. Same goes for something like Safely Spooky at Proska when they have played music. That's very different to me then having some neighbor setting up huge speakers and blasting you to kingdom come.
Quote from: n01_important on May 08, 2011, 10:18:30 PM.......Let 'em party until the sun comes up, and once the sun comes up, wait 10 minutes and start up your lawnmower, weed whacker and leaf blower. :666: muhahahahah :666:
A good suggestion, to be sure, IF you can stay awake comfortably to do it, AFTER being kept up all night by the interlopers. berwynson
Quote from: berwynson on May 09, 2011, 08:18:58 PM
Quote from: n01_important on May 08, 2011, 10:18:30 PM.......Let 'em party until the sun comes up, and once the sun comes up, wait 10 minutes and start up your lawnmower, weed whacker and leaf blower. :666: muhahahahah :666:
A good suggestion, to be sure, IF you can stay awake comfortably to do it, AFTER being kept up all night by the interlopers. berwynson
Ear plugs.
Quote from: berwyn senator on May 08, 2011, 07:34:26 PM
Finally one senior called telling the police if the noise doesn't stop he was going over and blow up the house and everyone around it,he also mentioned that he was an explosive expert in the service.Done ,several cops came ,quiet at last.
Not sure that saying something like that to the cops is too smart nowadays. The guy could end up on a terrorist watch list or something.
Your right, but things sometimes get to the point of frustration,one says and does crazy things.Is anyone aware that the rhythm of certain music can raise the stress and anxiety levels?
Quote from: dukesdad on May 09, 2011, 10:44:24 AM
I enjoyed the Fiesta music from Cicero, plus it was off by 9 or earlier. I see a huge difference between a community event and a single home that is blasting music, but that's me.
The music and the speeches stopped at 10:30 p.m. per Cicero PD
Quote from: berwyn senator on May 10, 2011, 08:05:45 AM
......Is anyone aware that the rhythm of certain music can raise the stress and anxiety levels?
Why, hell yes! Just consider what their "music" caused various savage cultures to do..........berwynson
Quote from: berwyn senator on May 10, 2011, 08:05:45 AM
Your right, but things sometimes get to the point of frustration,one says and does crazy things.Is anyone aware that the rhythm of certain music can raise the stress and anxiety levels?
Certain sounds known to measureably raise blood pressure which, I guess, does tie in to elevated stress and anxiety levels. The vibration from bass from those super subwoofers can be felt and does seem to cause some people's heart to race.
Another thing about continuous loud noise - it masks crime going on around. Easy to bust out a few windows or even beat someone up on the street when someone is blasting out their choice of music for hours on end, etc. But, it appears excessively loud music at fiestas and 'family gatherings' is what the people want. So be it. As someone reminded me -- that is what earplugs are for.
Maybe sort of off topic, but with the warm weather the last few days, I am reminded of my only peeve of summer - the goofs and their loud car stereos.
Don't get me wrong. I'm a life long metalhead with a 1,000 watt (I think) Bose system in my Explorer. But I wait until I'm on 39th /Ogden / Harlem to turn up Tony Iommi or Judas Priest to "11". I know that most people that might be mowing their lawns or out for a stroll on our side streets don't want to be inundated with the "noise" that I love.
But, I just don't get these (white) kids blasting rap out of their cars driving by us down 37th Street. "yeah I'm Bad.....I'm Bad....."
No you're not. You're silly and quite frankly I bet your parents didn't pay enough attention to you.
Back on topic, we have some semi-raucous (beer drinkin' and lots of kids) get togethers with the neighbors on summer weekends, but start toning it down as the sun starts to set. We have the benefit of being on the corner, but we always remind our next door neighbor that "if we're too loud, just say something, and we'll pipe down." She actually likes a little bit of noise. She's a widow and by herself, and if she knows we're outside, then she finds comfort knowing that we're outside, and no one is going to come and rob her, etc.
It's really neat to have good neighbors.
Put a set of loud speakers pointed at the source of the loud music,crank up the volume,polkas marches,or any music will work. The band will not be able to play with this going on,try it works all the time.
Quote from: scottymac on May 11, 2011, 01:38:30 AM
Maybe sort of off topic, but with the warm weather the last few days, I am reminded of my only peeve of summer - the goofs and their loud car stereos.
Don't get me wrong. I'm a life long metalhead with a 1,000 watt (I think) Bose system in my Explorer. But I wait until I'm on 39th /Ogden / Harlem to turn up Tony Iommi or Judas Priest to "11".
"Breakin' The Law" - YEAH! "Crazy Train" - or anything Ozzy - also my fav - but still I would not dream of inflicting it on anyone else - unless they want to come to Ozzfest with me, etc.
U r so right about the white punks who think they are sooooo bad. As you said - they just look silly and stupid as they go about with their saggy-baggy attire, ball caps with brim turned right or left (some without a clue that is as sign of gang affiliation...) and blasting out obscene rap music. Their moms must be so very proud when they come to the PD to bail out their Einstein and, often, their own vehicle which was used in the audio assault on a neigbhborhood.
The next time the a-hole neighbors have a loud party at night, early the next morning, we are busting out the bagpipe music full blast aimed at their house!
;D
Seriously...
Since Saturday night, we have made it a point to talk to some of our neighbors, and have discovered and re-discovered that we have some wonderful people living right near us. They are also disgusted, but were afraid that they were alone in their disdain for these jerks. So we exchanged phone numbers. As someone here said, if a couple of us complain, the message might get through.
When we had ahole neighbors who had no consideration for the fact that WE work during the day (and they don't work at all) and would be loud til very late....our comeback was to start the lawnmower right under their bedroom window the following morning, affix a velcro tie to the handle (so it would stay on) and then go do a few things in the house for a while before coming and turning it off.
I like it!!! I love all these great snarky ideas I'm getting from everyone here! Keep 'em comin'!!
;D
Quote from: PamF on May 11, 2011, 03:21:31 PM
When we had ahole neighbors who had no consideration for the fact that WE work during the day (and they don't work at all) and would be loud til very late....our comeback was to start the lawnmower right under their bedroom window the following morning, affix a velcro tie to the handle (so it would stay on) and then go do a few things in the house for a while before coming and turning it off.
My ahole neighbor gets home from work at 3am. When he locks his car, the horn beeps, sometimes waking me and others in the immediate area. I'm wondering whether to leave him a note and see what happens, or.....
Quote from: Fer on May 11, 2011, 12:45:36 PM
The next time the a-hole neighbors have a loud party at night, early the next morning, we are busting out the bagpipe music full blast aimed at their house!
;D
Seriously...
Since Saturday night, we have made it a point to talk to some of our neighbors, and have discovered and re-discovered that we have some wonderful people living right near us. They are also disgusted, but were afraid that they were alone in their disdain for these jerks. So we exchanged phone numbers. As someone here said, if a couple of us complain, the message might get through.
Best idea is just what you did -- got acquainted with other neighbors and exchanged phone numbers and a commitment to helping each other out by calling PD.
Also love the bagpipe idea. However, the sound of a person practicing violin is perhaps the most irritating of sounds - EVER - until, of course, they master that lovely instrument...
Quote from: berwyn senator on May 11, 2011, 07:06:03 AM
Put a set of loud speakers pointed at the source of the loud music,crank up the volume,polkas marches,or any music will work.
porn.
I love these ideas, sneaky & fun...lol
We've been dealing with noisy neighbors. All I have to do is unleash my husband on them, they see this big a** red neck looking guy coming at them asking them to quiet the hell down, they do it & apologize...lol
Quote from: Diona on May 12, 2011, 05:59:38 AM
I love these ideas, sneaky & fun...lol
We've been dealing with noisy neighbors. All I have to do is unleash my husband on them, they see this big a** red neck looking guy coming at them asking them to quiet the hell down, they do it & apologize...lol
Could I put your husband on retainer for the summer?
I've done it years ago couldn't stand the noise from a party next door,went outside set up the screen began running the projector and went inside,within seconds the men were watching and laughing, women gone,so was the music.Next party I was invited.
Quote from: ~LL~ on May 12, 2011, 01:29:38 PM
Quote from: Diona on May 12, 2011, 05:59:38 AM
I love these ideas, sneaky & fun...lol
We've been dealing with noisy neighbors. All I have to do is unleash my husband on them, they see this big a** red neck looking guy coming at them asking them to quiet the hell down, they do it & apologize...lol
Could I put your husband on retainer for the summer?
Me, too!!!
Diona ! You have a future in outsourcing.
LOL...I just may have to ask him! :D
He did a lil scare a couple nights ago. We have a neighbor that has family/friends come by & they always ring our bell. Don't know if they can't read properly, just don't give a sh** * ring anybodies door or are just plain stupid. He got tired of it, went downstairs, rang the hell out of their bell, then came up & told them to PLEASE stop ringing our bell. The woman that answered looked at him, said she was sorry & she would make sure it wouldn't happen again. :o We will see if she was scared enough to listen to him THIS time!
Just another pain in the ass is something I named the asshole's door bell, car horns at all hours.These lazy buggers pull up in front of the houses block the street and honk away.Then down she comes three kids 10 more minutes while trying to get everone in the car,these people just don't get it
Quote from: berwyn senator on May 13, 2011, 07:07:53 AM
Just another pain in the ass is something I named the asshole's door bell, car horns at all hours.These lazy buggers pull up in front of the houses block the street and honk away.Then down she comes three kids 10 more minutes while trying to get everone in the car,these people just don't get it
What gets me about this particularly prevalent activity is that it is a rare person who doesn't have a cell phone these days -- and the drivers could call to let their passengers know they were either on the block or about to be... but, I guess, why use up minutes when one can disturb a whole neighborhood with their ignorance?
If they are double parking & honking, call Berwyn PD - especially if it is later at night. Report "suspicious vehicle" (they
could be waiting for curb service for their drug order...). An officer on patrol just might be near by and can 'inconvenience' them a little...
LL, don't even have to use the any minutes if you don't want to.
I just tell the kids or the wife that I'll ring them when I'm pulling up. Don't answer, just pop out.
A little off topic, but speaking about pick up / drop off and common courtesy among neighbors, what is it with people who can not pull over into an open parking spot when picking up/dropping off someone and instead double parking and blocking traffic with open spots on the side in plain view? Lazy motherf-ers!! I understand to a certain extent to double park if there is absolutely no spot, but dropping off a whole family including kids sometimes and block the street for several minutes while others are stuck behind is no excuse. Geez, for that purpose you can even pull up in front of a fire hydrant as long as you stay in the car. The honking in this case would come from me!!! Rant over... offtopic
Quote from: berwyn senator on May 13, 2011, 07:07:53 AM
Just another pain in the ass is something I named the asshole's door bell, car horns at all hours.These lazy buggers pull up in front of the houses block the street and honk away.Then down she comes three kids 10 more minutes while trying to get everone in the car,these people just don't get it
Don't be angry, feel bad for them... you see, their parents didn't have time to teach 'em courtesy and manners. Their dad was probably in jail for dealing and their mom was probably too busy prostituting herself for $10 a trick. ;D
$10?? Tell her to honk in front of my house.
Quote from: scottymac on May 13, 2011, 01:14:16 PM
LL, don't even have to use the any minutes if you don't want to.
I just tell the kids or the wife that I'll ring them when I'm pulling up. Don't answer, just pop out.
Very clever! thanks for the tip.
Quote from: honkytonkstar on May 13, 2011, 03:15:12 PM
A little off topic, but speaking about pick up / drop off and common courtesy among neighbors, what is it with people who can not pull over into an open parking spot when picking up/dropping off someone and instead double parking and blocking traffic with open spots on the side in plain view? Lazy motherf-ers!!
Drug dealers and/or their 'customers' are the ones who most often double park - for the obvious reason of a possible quick get away -- before a neighborhood watch-bitch can get their plate # -- or a 50 is spotted.
I agree that others who routinely do this are just as lazy as they are inconsiderate. If you are behind them and can get their plate # -- call PD and report and give direction of travel if they should take off before officer arrives. Might be an officer in the area able to see them holding up traffic by double parking. I've gotten the finger many a time from such rude turds -- the nerve of me to honk at them while they are blocking my passage. With or without available parking spot -- it is illegal to hold up traffic at any time for any reason - except for police or fire vehicles.
Quote from: ~LL~ on May 14, 2011, 11:14:34 AM
Quote from: honkytonkstar on May 13, 2011, 03:15:12 PM
A little off topic, but speaking about pick up / drop off and common courtesy among neighbors, what is it with people who can not pull over into an open parking spot when picking up/dropping off someone and instead double parking and blocking traffic with open spots on the side in plain view? Lazy motherf-ers!!
Drug dealers and/or their 'customers' are the ones who most often double park - for the obvious reason of a possible quick get away -- before a neighborhood watch-bitch can get their plate # -- or a 50 is spotted.
We've had this discussion here before with Boris and I generally disagree with that assertion. Unless those are extremely dumbass customers/dealers, they would park and go inside so as not to be seen.
That said, we do have a Chicago-style element whose normal MO is street corner rock... so, maybe.
OK, ranting again about these same a-hole neighbors. They really don't have a freakin' clue!
Pretty much most nights of the week, they start grilling around 9 or so, and several of them sit out in the back yard, laughing and yucking it up, all accompanied by the thump-thump-thump-y base music that comes out of the garage. This will go on till all hours. I'm not kidding.
Per suggestions here and elsewhere, we have been calling Berwyn P.D. We had to call them twice last night, and after the first visit, they turned the music way down for awhile. This was around 11 p.m. Then shortly after the police left, it was cranked back up again. They came again around midnight, and we distinctly heard the woman who lives there say, "It's not that loud." Who cares? If we can hear it at midnight on a Monday with all of our windows & doors closed, it's too loud!
Also, they were given citations for running a chop shop out of their garage, and blight may be the next ticket. They have two cars up on blocks behind the house, and a nice big couch on their front porch. Classy, huh?
Anyone know how much longer we should have to put up with this crap? How many times does someone have to have police visit their house...these are renters...before they are asked to leave? I know that's wishful thinking....
Thanks, I feel better now...
So sorry that you are having to deal with this. I know we would be losing our minds by now if it was going on next door to us.
Can the police or city put pressure on the owner of the rental?
That is a terrible way for you to have to live! What ever you do do not stop calling the
Police.
They came again around midnight, and we distinctly heard the woman who lives there say, "It's not that loud."
You're right- she doesn't have a clue. If "not that loud" is loud enough to keep you up that's too loud. Sorry, this is a suburb, not the city.
I didn't know from your previous posts these idiots were renters. This is why we need some kind of housing ordinance to get on these absentee landlords for allowing such crap renters.
Quote from: Bonster on June 14, 2011, 08:51:05 AM
They came again around midnight, and we distinctly heard the woman who lives there say, "It's not that loud."
You're right- she doesn't have a clue. If "not that loud" is loud enough to keep you up that's too loud. Sorry, this is a suburb, not the city.
I didn't know from your previous posts these idiots were renters. This is why we need some kind of housing ordinance to get on these absentee landlords for allowing such crap renters.
We had one.
DCOB got rid of it.
#6 was supposed to introduce a new one, not sure that he ever did.
Are these neighbors new to the area? I got rid of some ass-hat tenants a couple of months ago (sounds like them). Partying all the time with 50 or so folks in the backyard. They intimidated folks around the area, finally had to drag them to court and of course gave me a hard time for a couple of months. One time one guy was high on something and bi%$3d me out, I called the cops and they said they couldn't do anything about it since he did not threaten me, go figure.
Keep on calling the police; if they are renters, find out who the landlord is via public records and contact him/her.
Just be aware of the fact that the law often sides with tenants. We tried for over a year to get rid of ours. Police were at my house monthly if not more. They finally moved and left me with over $2000 of damage and unpaid rent. (I know that's very little compared to what they could of done. ) The police can only do so much, you just have to keep up the pressure and hope the jerks move on. As for screening, there is again only so much you can do. I got lucky so far this time, but if my current tenants decide to move, I really hope a famiy member of mine needs a place instead of doing this crap shoot again.
What about the other neighbors around this house? Are they being woken up as well. Can you guys band together and get everyone to call the police every night? Seems like the cops aren't taking it real serious.
Just got off the phone with Officer Sassetti. He (they) are working on this problem. He spoke to the out-of-state owner of the home, and he was appalled at what's been going on. When Sassetti told him he could be fined if the problems persisted, he was very concerned.
Also, Sassetti told me that a video van would be posted in front of their house, just to let them know they are being watched.
And, the neighbor on the other side of these jerks has become my ally in this whole process. We are taking turns call BPD, etc. They are also long-time residents who are disgusted by what's been going on.
One thing that Sassetti reminded me of was that sometimes the wheels of justice can turn slowly. But he did say that they are doing what they can, and he encouraged us to keep calling BPD, and they will do their best.
So while these jerks are still there...I'm encouraged that at least someone is trying to do something about the problem.
The other night, the idios were out in the yard, yukking it up until past 4 a.m.!!!
Thanks for all the great ideas here! I'll keep you informed.
Quote from: Fer on June 15, 2011, 01:30:44 PM
Just got off the phone with Officer Sassetti. He (they) are working on this problem. He spoke to the out-of-state owner of the home, and he was appalled at what's been going on. When Sassetti told him he could be fined if the problems persisted, he was very concerned.
Also, Sassetti told me that a video van would be posted in front of their house, just to let them know they are being watched.
And, the neighbor on the other side of these jerks has become my ally in this whole process. We are taking turns call BPD, etc. They are also long-time residents who are disgusted by what's been going on.
One thing that Sassetti reminded me of was that sometimes the wheels of justice can turn slowly. But he did say that they are doing what they can, and he encouraged us to keep calling BPD, and they will do their best.
So while these jerks are still there...I'm encouraged that at least someone is trying to do something about the problem.
The other night, the idios were out in the yard, yukking it up until past 4 a.m.!!!
Thanks for all the great ideas here! I'll keep you informed.
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Sorry you had to endure it as long as you have - but good for you for reporting and glad you have an ally. Jim Sassetti is 1st rate and will follow through for you.
He seems like a great guy and has followed through on every bit of communication so far, via email & phone. He seems committed to really helping us...
4 AM! OH MY GOD; I would have gone absolutely bat-shit crazy if that happened to me. You are a saint.....or much more tolerant than I. Good luck with these aholes. I'm guessing you don't much like the nice weather as that encourages them to hang out outside.
You're right about the weather. As I've been thinking for awhile now, it's going to be a looooonnngggg summer!
But, good news. Sassetti tracked down the owner of the home (who lives out of state now...used to reside there). The owners were absolutely appalled at what's been going on. When Sassetti told them they could be fined for allowing these tenants to continue to wreak havoc, they were a bit alarmed. I'm wondering if a visit from the owners might be happening in the future...
And I've enjoyed seeing the video van thing parked in front of their house the last two mornings as I've left for work. As I mentioned to Officer Sassetti, the action there always takes place in the back yard and/or garage...but he said that it sends a strong message to these a-holes. (Well, he didn't use those exact words...)
So, again, he encouraged us to keep calling, and so far, I'm very happy that the BPD seems to be on our side and they are doing what they can!
Quote from: Fer on June 14, 2011, 07:27:43 AM
They have two cars up on blocks behind the house, and a nice big couch on their front porch. Classy, huh?
I drove by tonight. I had no idea you were just a block away.
That sofa would look much better under the windows, facing the street. Dontcha' think ? ;)
Buzz, I've thought the same thing. They should also add a nice end table, and a reading lamp for those late nights they have! ::)
If you want to see the real action, cruise down the alley. They were out there again last night; got started around 9 p.m. or so. They weren't tooo, tooo, loud. But I did tell my neighbor it was her turn to call Berwyn's finest. I was able to fall asleep.
I haven't checked yet to see if the video surveillance vehicle is still in front of their house, but clearly, it didn't make a bit of difference to them last night.
The battle continues...
Good for you, I hope that the BPD & the owner can get those jerks out of the house so you all can have decent nights sleep again.
They just don't seem to care and don't have a clue do they? I will never understand rude people who do not think anything they do might impact others around them! Is the sofa exposed to the weather? If so, wouldn't that be a blight issue?
We thought it would be a blight issue, too. But it's not, technically, according to Officer Sassetti.
I'm actually hoping that the friendly neighborhood cat we know will go and pee on it. I'm going to suggest that to him next time we see him cruising around the block...
And the video van was still out there again this a.m.!
I don't mind furniture on a porch, but when it's clearly indoor furniture it has be subject to moisture, mold, mildew, etc.
There's one on the porch next door to me; doesn't look blight-y, but looks indoor-y.
Last time I smelled it it was OK.
Time to write up some new Berwyn ordinances, I'd say! Couches/indoor furniture sitting outside
On front porches, how does that look for marketing Berwyn housing?
Yep, that's what we were thinking. Would YOU want to buy a house next door to jerks who have couches on their front porch? And crappy cars in the back of their house?
And the couch had to get soaked the other day in all that rain...I'm sure it smells great.
I would check with the blight dept.,one more time. It just does not seem right that, that kind
Of decor is not in violation of something? Mold, mice maybe even the homeless are using it.
Quote from: Fer on June 17, 2011, 10:32:09 AM
I'm actually hoping that the friendly neighborhood cat we know will go and pee on it.
Maybe that's why it's out there.
They're just "airing" it out for a while.
It does look trashy. It really sticks out considering the other homes around it are so well maintained. Was the couch always turned toward the house like that or did they do that so they could sit out there while they are being surveilled?
Fer, what's happening now that the surveillance is gone ?
Actually, it's been pretty quiet this week, after the surveillance truck was out there for the entire week last week. But the weather hasn't really been conducive to hanging out in the yard, either. I wonder what next weekend will bring.
We are having family in from out of town, and we will actually be enjoying OUR yard and back porch for a change.
Should be interesting.
What is everyone doing over the 4th of July holiday, now that there are no more fireworks? And, is there a parade anywhere around here? Since I have relatives in Homewood, we've been going there for the last few years during the day on the fourth for their parade. But we'd like to skip that this year and stick closer to home.
Speaking of 4th of July, when I was a kid, 4th of July was as big of a holiday as Christmas! I grew up in Dolton, and the huge parade down the main street (we lived just off of it) and the carnival a few blocks away were the absolute highlight of the year. What great memories...
I noticed that the couch is now gone!! My husband and I walked by there yesterday and it was still there so they just must of either taken it in (yuck) or tossed it. Since it's the 29th maybe they'll be out of there with the rest of their belongings by the 1st. You can only hope. It does sound like they've been made known that they're definitely not welcome with the lifestyle they keep. Good for you.
Yep. I didn't notice it last night, but saw the porch empty this morning. I love your optimism, Mrs. N.! If only they'd start packing up their shit...
Officer Sasetti did contact the out-of-state homeowners & he must have blown in a call to our pals next door. It has been quieter, and oh, we can only hope they'll be outta here soon. But, I have a feeling there will be much mirth and merriment this weekend.
We are having family in from out of town staying here, and we actually plan to be out in our yard for a change and perhaps enjoy ourselves! I hope they don't muck it up...
Call the police this way these people will think twice and know the neighbors don't put up with their crap. If you leave it alone it will only get worse.
Quote from: curly on July 04, 2011, 10:51:07 PM
Call the police this way these people will think twice and know the neighbors don't put up with their crap. If you leave it alone it will only get worse.
Well said. Wish more people would actually do as you suggest - since one can remain anonymous and still get good response and results from PD.
Quote from: ~LL~ on July 05, 2011, 08:51:10 AM
........- since one can remain anonymous and still get good response and results from PD........
This is true ONLY if you use a payphone, and there's damn few left. ALL dispatchers' gear nation-wide instantly "I.D.s" every call as it arrives, even if the caller has "blocked" the call.
Cellphones are ALL instantly identifiable as to owner and physical location every time the device is used, thanks to the Federal Communications Act of 1996, I think it was, which made MANDATORY that every phone service provider be able to submit that information instantly to law enforcement upon demand (thanks mainly to the FBI).
Quote from: berwynson on July 05, 2011, 08:54:15 PM
Cellphones are ALL instantly identifiable as to owner and physical location every time the device is used
Not true. You can purchase a pre-paid cell phone that cannot be traced to any owner.
Quote from: buzz on July 05, 2011, 11:20:57 PM
Quote from: berwynson on July 05, 2011, 08:54:15 PM
Cellphones are ALL instantly identifiable as to owner and physical location every time the device is used
Not true. You can purchase a pre-paid cell phone that cannot be traced to any owner.
Such a cellphone is in violation of the Act. Check it out.
Quote from: berwynson on July 06, 2011, 08:50:32 PM
Quote from: buzz on July 05, 2011, 11:20:57 PM
Quote from: berwynson on July 05, 2011, 08:54:15 PM
Cellphones are ALL instantly identifiable as to owner and physical location every time the device is used
Not true. You can purchase a pre-paid cell phone that cannot be traced to any owner.
Such a cellphone is in violation of the Act. Check it out.
Then get them pulled off the shelves.
I now noticed that the couch is in the yard under a tree. This is an indoor couch. What do they think - that the tree will keep it from getting wet and moldy and smelly? My parents, grandparents, aunt, uncle and cousins all moved into a three-flat in the late 1950's in the city and several homes on the block were put up for sale because the "hillbillies" were moving in. I have news for you - there never was an indoor couch either on the front porch or in the backyard, ever. A huge garden and for awhile, a pen with some chickens attached to the garage, but no couches.
Quote from: buzz on July 06, 2011, 09:00:03 PM
Quote from: berwynson on July 06, 2011, 08:50:32 PM
Quote from: buzz on July 05, 2011, 11:20:57 PM
Quote from: berwynson on July 05, 2011, 08:54:15 PM
Cellphones are ALL instantly identifiable as to owner and physical location every time the device is used
Not true. You can purchase a pre-paid cell phone that cannot be traced to any owner.
Such a cellphone is in violation of the Act. Check it out.
Then get them pulled off the shelves.
Do you mean like "TracPhones"? I concede this much: the Act when passed by Congress was responded to by Phone Providers claims' that it would require enormous expense to implement, but that DID happen. Have you yourself purchased and used such a cell as you describe? Paid for it and immediately began using it?
Don't see the couch anymore. I wonder if they brought it back inside. I'll bet it smells great...
Hey, as long as they're quiet about it...
I wish all of you the best of luck with your neighbors on this last, long weekend of the summer.
Keep the a/c on and hope for the best.
Enjoy the holiday. Cheers!
I've never complained here - but there's "neighbors" across the alley & about one house over who have a bit of a bonfire many if not most evenings in the summer. I'm pretty sure they go around finding whatever wood or wood-like material that will burn --in people's trash, the alley, wherever. When it's nice enough to open the windows at night, I like to do that -except that at best, it smells like something's on fire in my house, and at worst like something toxic is being burnt on the bonfire & the smell is drifting into my windows (and probably those of everybody around here.
Are there any rules or regulations about bonfires or those little fire pits and what you can burn in them?
That particular guy isn't too loud - just smoky. Now the one's next door to him also talk & play music that's loud enough to hear in my yard. Not too bad in my house, but if I lived next door to them, I would be really mad b/c I have a kid that I try to put to bed at 8 p.m. and no central a/c.
Hope everyone has a good holiday weekend!
I believe fire pits are illegal.
Call thE BPD non-emergency number and ask.
Go drop a bag of burning dog shit in his yard and see how he likes it.
Quote from: OakParkSpartan on September 03, 2011, 08:05:51 PM
I believe fire pits are illegal.
Call thE BPD non-emergency number and ask.
I wish they were illegal because every drunken yahoo on the block and block across the alley seems to have one!
I see one such yahoo continually dousing whatever they are burning with lighter fluid! Nearly burned his own saggy-baggy pants off one night...
But, I don't believe the pit itself is illegal. What is being burned in the pit and the size of the fire can, I believe, be addressed by PD or FD.
Again I say -- in a town like this where lots are relatively small and houses close together -- even more respect and consideration for the rights of others should prevail. But, no...more like just the opposite. I also personally do not understand why ppl gather outside on their front porches and steps and proceed to blither out the most inimate details of their crappy lives for a half-a-block's worth of neighbors to hear - especially late at night! Summer's a bummer cuz of them sometimes...so closing windows even on mild evenings is a must. Sigh...
Everyone must be out of town on the 2300 block of OPA! So quiet around here! Actually, the entire area between here & Morton West seemed rather quiet. We walked to the Maria SS. Laurentana fest last night to see the fireworks & the only gatherings we noticed in any yards seemed quite subdued.
MY a-hole neighbors are having their last (I'm hopeful!) gathering of the summer. They have their fire pit going, and have been hooping and hollerin' since about 6:30. We're giving them until 9 to quiet down, and then it's time to call our friends at BPD.
Quote from: Fer on September 05, 2011, 08:08:38 PM
MY a-hole neighbors are having their last (I'm hopeful!) gathering of the summer. They have their fire pit going, and have been hooping and hollerin' since about 6:30. We're giving them until 9 to quiet down, and then it's time to call our friends at BPD.
Good luck. But don't count on this being their last hurrah! Lots of nice weather still ahead -- and this type usually parties all friggen year long either inside or outside.
Houses are too close together for fire pits. Just because someone wants to burn something doesn't mean the neighbors should have to shut their windows so as to not breathe it in. I had enough of those nights where my house reeked of their smoke. Add to that the close proximity of an octagon bungalow's back bedroom to the neighbor's yard, and there comes a certain hour when you need to get ready for the work week and don't want to be "entertained" by their music any more. I feel for you.