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Title: Election Day
Post by: Ted on November 06, 2012, 06:31:48 AM
 Long lines this morning at my precinct.  I got there at 6:02 and was twelfth in line.  When I left, there were about 15 people in line. 

The electronic voting machine was not working so everyone was voting using a paper ballot.

Usually, I vote at 6 AM and I am the first.  I think part of the reason for the long lines is the combining of precincts -  what used to be 4 precincts have been combined into one precinct.

When I went to the bank on Saturday, the lines were out of city hall.  I spoke to one person who voted on Saturday and she said she waited two hours to vote.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: moose on November 06, 2012, 07:33:25 AM
I was about 5th inline at my polling place at 6:15, call me old fashion, I used the paper ballot!
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: exPROPer on November 06, 2012, 07:40:39 AM
There by 7 am.  Paper ballot.  Out by 7:15-ish.  Not bad and it is good to see a lot of people out at that time. 
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: Bonster on November 06, 2012, 08:51:52 AM
No line at Commodore Barry at 7a.  Walked right up to 8-3, signed in, voted.  Returned to the desk, signed in, voted again.   Returned to the desk, signed in, voted again. Returned to the desk, signed in, voted again.Returned to the desk, signed in, voted again.Returned to the desk, signed in, voted again.Returned to the desk, signed in, voted again.Returned to the desk, signed in, voted again.Returned to the desk, signed in, voted again.Returned to the desk, signed in, voted again.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: chandasz on November 06, 2012, 09:08:55 AM
2 people ahead of me at Hiawatha this morning when I got there about 6:15.

Plus yummy bakesale by our PTA. SCORE
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: NYWREB on November 06, 2012, 09:55:25 AM
I was #50 at 7:30 at Liberty center.  Waited for the electronic machine - was out within 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: pkd50 on November 06, 2012, 10:27:17 AM
Paper ballots in Countrysie took some time causing a line.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: moose on November 06, 2012, 11:22:03 AM
Quote from: chandasz on November 06, 2012, 09:08:55 AM
2 people ahead of me at Hiawatha this morning when I got there about 6:15.

Plus yummy bakesale by our PTA. SCORE

I knew I should have voted at Hiawatha! My polling place had NOTHING!!
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: Bonster on November 06, 2012, 11:35:22 AM
ahhhhahaha, moose!  I was thinking the same thing!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2 wondering if there's anything left.

Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: watcher on November 06, 2012, 12:01:34 PM
#233 in my precinct. (FoPa) Line for electronic (6 people), no line for paper.
Took paper. Done in under 5 minutes.
Rest of family will vote after 4 pm. Will be interesting to see turnout. Seemed steady.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: moose on November 06, 2012, 12:44:09 PM
What I found really strange today, no one in front of my polling place trying to influence my vote!!
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: chandasz on November 06, 2012, 01:51:06 PM
Yeah- I agree-- no one was in front of Hiawatha either. First time ever. Usually there's a bunch of thuggy looking guys in leather.... hmmmm
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: moose on November 06, 2012, 02:36:07 PM
All the Thugs were probably at the bake sale!
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: MRS. NORTHSIDER on November 06, 2012, 06:17:49 PM
I voted at Citizens Bank on Oak Park about 3pm.  No lines really but there were a few people in front of me and while I was waiting for a few minutes for the electronic ballot a few came in behind me.  Although my vote doesn't really matter since Illinois is about as Democratic as they come I really had to vote in honor of my dad and all those soldiers who fought to make sure we have that right.  I was particularly impressed by an older hispanic lady who had to have her daughter help her with the electronic ballot.  She had a hard time but she was determined to get it done.  The little granddaughter waited at the bottom of the stairs and made sure she directed me to the place to vote.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: MRS. NORTHSIDER on December 03, 2016, 11:47:00 PM
Quote from: MRS. NORTHSIDER on November 06, 2012, 06:17:49 PM
I voted at Citizens Bank on Oak Park about 3pm.  No lines really but there were a few people in front of me and while I was waiting for a few minutes for the electronic ballot a few came in behind me.  Although my vote doesn't really matter since Illinois is about as Democratic as they come I really had to vote in honor of my dad and all those soldiers who fought to make sure we have that right.  I was particularly impressed by an older hispanic lady who had to have her daughter help her with the electronic ballot.  She had a hard time but she was determined to get it done.  The little granddaughter waited at the bottom of the stairs and made sure she directed me to the place to vote.
4 years later.  This country has voted their conscience and we have a new President-elect.  I see no one on this board who previously annouced their support for Obama ever announced support for Hillary Clinton since she annouced her candidancy. 
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: markberwyn on December 04, 2016, 09:04:49 AM
Quote from: MRS. NORTHSIDER on December 03, 2016, 11:47:00 PM
Quote from: MRS. NORTHSIDER on November 06, 2012, 06:17:49 PM
I voted at Citizens Bank on Oak Park about 3pm.  No lines really but there were a few people in front of me and while I was waiting for a few minutes for the electronic ballot a few came in behind me.  Although my vote doesn't really matter since Illinois is about as Democratic as they come I really had to vote in honor of my dad and all those soldiers who fought to make sure we have that right.  I was particularly impressed by an older hispanic lady who had to have her daughter help her with the electronic ballot.  She had a hard time but she was determined to get it done.  The little granddaughter waited at the bottom of the stairs and made sure she directed me to the place to vote.
4 years later.  This country has voted their conscience and we have a new President-elect.  I see no one on this board who previously annouced their support for Obama ever announced support for Hillary Clinton since she annouced her candidancy.

Well, you might recall this board has been pretty dead for the past four years. I would be eager to read the posts on this board announcing support for the president-elect. Could you please point me to a few of them?
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: MRS. NORTHSIDER on December 05, 2016, 10:35:22 PM
After the last 8 years, I am eager for a change.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: MRS. NORTHSIDER on December 05, 2016, 10:46:57 PM
Quote from: MRS. NORTHSIDER on December 05, 2016, 10:35:22 PM
After the last 8 years, I am eager for a change.
How about a coworker paying $1500 in health insurance a month and facing a 40 percent increase in her health insurance because her daughter is bipolar and she has had considerable claims.  Wow, thank you Obama!!  This is what your everyday people deal with.  I told her she would be better off having her daughter go to Cook County (John Stroger) Hospital and claiming she is homeless because ObamaCare is bullshit!
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: markberwyn on December 06, 2016, 06:00:45 AM
Quote from: MRS. NORTHSIDER on December 05, 2016, 10:35:22 PM
After the last 8 years, I am eager for a change.

Well, looks like you got it. The big complaint that conservatives made during the campaign was that putting the former secretary of state in the White House would mean a president with global conflicts of interest and a team of full of Wall Street cronies. That sounded just awful.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: markberwyn on December 06, 2016, 06:02:14 AM
Quote from: MRS. NORTHSIDER on December 05, 2016, 10:46:57 PM
Quote from: MRS. NORTHSIDER on December 05, 2016, 10:35:22 PM
After the last 8 years, I am eager for a change.
How about a coworker paying $1500 in health insurance a month and facing a 40 percent increase in her health insurance because her daughter is bipolar and she has had considerable claims.  Wow, thank you Obama!!  This is what your everyday people deal with.  I told her she would be better off having her daughter go to Cook County (John Stroger) Hospital and claiming she is homeless because ObamaCare is bullshit!

I've read of and spoken to many people who are grateful for the Affordable Care Act, for all its flaws, and who are terribly heartsick at the prospect of its repeal.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: Ted on December 06, 2016, 07:36:21 AM
 I voted for Clinton.  Trump does not have either the temperament nor the experience to be President.  Clinton also received 2 million more votes than Trump.  Time to do away with the electoral college.

  As for the ACA, I want to see how Trump stills allows people with pre-existing conditions to be able to get health coverage and still drive down the costs.  Without younger people signing up, I do not see how that happens.

  The nation should have instituted a single payer system - I know many corporations want to get out of the business of providing health care.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: markberwyn on December 06, 2016, 10:27:11 AM
Quote from: Ted on December 06, 2016, 07:36:21 AM
Time to do away with the electoral college.

Not OK with this. Everybody knew the rules going in, and I think it's a bad idea to have a system where the candidate who wins the cities wins the election. If the Democrats want firmer control of government policy and more leadership positions, they can work harder to make their case to rural and depressed areas of the country.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: MRS. NORTHSIDER on December 07, 2016, 11:49:08 PM
Quote from: markberwyn on December 06, 2016, 10:27:11 AM
Quote from: Ted on December 06, 2016, 07:36:21 AM
Time to do away with the electoral college.

Not OK with this. Everybody knew the rules going in, and I think it's a bad idea to have a system where the candidate who wins the cities wins the election. If the Democrats want firmer control of government policy and more leadership positions, they can work harder to make their case to rural and depressed areas of the country.
For once, I do agree with you. 
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: berwyn senator on December 08, 2016, 11:39:11 AM
For years there has been talk about changing the electoral college will never be accomplished.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: berwyn senator on January 21, 2017, 09:48:00 PM
Now the shit is happening in Berwyn,flyers on the porch door bells ringing!
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: berwyn senator on January 21, 2017, 09:50:30 PM
Years back the Democrats were for the unions and middle America,things change with the Clintons.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: Ted on January 22, 2017, 06:34:05 AM
Quote from: berwyn senator on January 21, 2017, 09:48:00 PM
Now the shit is happening in Berwyn,flyers on the porch door bells ringing!

  There is a contested local primary election in Berwyn in February in the Democratic primary between two slates of candidates - the DCOB (Bobby Lovero's organization) and the Berwyn United organization, led by current 6th ward alderman Ted Polashek running for mayor and current 3rd ward alderman Marge Paul running for city clerk (as well as slates for aldermen and township positions).


  Why is that "shit" to you?  That is democracy, candidates going door to door engaging potential voters on their positions.

  Are you not interested in the local mayoral and aldermanic race?

  Berwyn Senator, I find it interesting that you bitch and moan and complain about a lot of things in Berwyn (e.g. alleys, Cermak Road, etc.) yet you are not interested in the fact that there is a local municipal election going on or who is running for office or what their positions and promises are.




Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: berwyn senator on January 22, 2017, 02:40:46 PM
I not afraid to say I will vote for Lovero,are they perfect no one is but all the years in Berwyn these past years have been fine. I went through four years of O'Conner's bullshit that was enough.These new people with no experience promise the moon and do not have the ability to run a town.We had two terrible aldermen in the first ward so I am tired of listening to their foolish promises that they never can accomplish. I still reserve the wright to complaint about Cermak Rd.because it still looks like hell and I feel much more can be done to improve the street.Was your alley repaved? hope not.I was born in Berwyn and have seen the best and the not so good. Democracy you say ok, so I have my rights! thank you from a grouchy resident.When was the Berwyn United Organization formed and who is behind the group,just wondering.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: markberwyn on January 22, 2017, 04:52:20 PM
Go to the candidates' forum and ask yourself!

http://www.berwyntalk.com/smf/index.php?topic=13737.msg222034 (http://www.berwyntalk.com/smf/index.php?topic=13737.msg222034)
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: Ted on January 22, 2017, 05:25:22 PM
Quote from: berwyn senator on January 22, 2017, 02:40:46 PM
I not afraid to say I will vote for Lovero,are they perfect no one is but all the years in Berwyn these past years have been fine. I went through four years of O'Conner's bullshit that was enough.These new people with no experience promise the moon and do not have the ability to run a town.We had two terrible aldermen in the first ward so I am tired of listening to their foolish promises that they never can accomplish. I still reserve the wright to complaint about Cermak Rd.because it still looks like hell and I feel much more can be done to improve the street.Was your alley repaved? hope not.I was born in Berwyn and have seen the best and the not so good. Democracy you say ok, so I have my rights! thank you from a grouchy resident.When was the Berwyn United Organization formed and who is behind the group,just wondering.

That's fine.  Vote for whomever you want.  But it is not "shit". It is democracy.

  And, as Mark said, if you want to find out about the candidates on either side, go to the forum.

  btw, I remember you praising Al Kveton 4 years ago.  Al was an IVB guy, not a Lovero guy.

  Who are you planning on voting for for alderman?  Just curious
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: Ted on January 22, 2017, 05:27:46 PM
Quote from: berwyn senator on January 22, 2017, 02:40:46 PM
... These new people with no experience ... 

  Actually, both Teddy Polashek (who is running mayor) and Marge Paul (who is running for City Clerk) have served on the city council for the past 8 years.  You may not like them but they do have experience.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: berwyn senator on January 22, 2017, 06:49:37 PM
Yes Alan was a great guy did a superb job would have my vote again where was O'conner's party to give him the support he needed?Maybe I use the wrong terminology about politics.I will vote straight Democratic. Berwyn has a history of new people running, slinging plenty of mud, making plenty of promises if they reach office, nothing! Where is there loyalty to their party maybe they don't want to wait their turn? What ever happened to the Republican party? We should have two parties.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: Ted on January 23, 2017, 07:23:37 AM
Quote from: berwyn senator on January 22, 2017, 06:49:37 PM
What ever happened to the Republican party? We should have two parties.

No one runs as a Republican in local politics because they tend to lose.  The "action" for the past 2 elections is in the Democratic party primary.  That is why there are two slates running in the Democratic primary.

  If you live in the 1st ward, then you have an open seat because Nona Chapman is retiring.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: berwyn senator on January 23, 2017, 09:31:36 AM
Nona retiring from what?Is she getting a pension?Yes I will research the two candidates running for alderman, and you convinced me to attend the forum.Proven the party doesn't always pick the best candidate,as with Alan he was the best assessor in Berwyn worked excellent with the residents.Hell with the party pick the best man.Never happens,1st. ward we were  stuck with two terrible aldermen,the last one never did nothing for the ward but get paid.The other was arrogant.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: markberwyn on January 23, 2017, 10:45:24 AM
Quote from: Ted on January 23, 2017, 07:23:37 AM
Quote from: berwyn senator on January 22, 2017, 06:49:37 PM
What ever happened to the Republican party? We should have two parties.

No one runs as a Republican in local politics because they tend to lose.  The "action" for the past 2 elections is in the Democratic party primary.  That is why there are two slates running in the Democratic primary.


Also, if you wanted to vote Republican in Berwyn in recent years, your sole option was Anthony Castrogiovanni, an idea-free conservative who never gave a clear statement on anything. I recall asking him for a fact-sheet about his background as a public servant, and he snippily replied that unless I was going to offer him a job I was out of line to make that request. He also claimed he could trim Berwyn's budget in hugely-type ways, but never said how he'd do so; fearing he would shut down the fire department if he ever came to power, I never voted for him.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: Ted on January 23, 2017, 05:18:52 PM
Quote from: berwyn senator on January 22, 2017, 06:49:37 PM
Yes Alan was a great guy did a superb job would have my vote again where was O'conner's party to give him the support he needed?... 

Actually, you have your facts wrong.  Al Kveton and Mage Paul were the only two members of the IVB to win election in 2009 (Al was unopposed).  All other IVB candidate were defeated in that election.  Al lost in the 2013 election when he ran in the Democratic primary.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: Ted on January 23, 2017, 05:20:22 PM
Quote from: berwyn senator on January 23, 2017, 09:31:36 AM
Nona retiring from what?Is she getting a pension? 

Nona is retiring from being an alderman.  She is not running for re-election. I don't think aldermen receive pensions for their work as aldermen.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: berwyn senator on January 23, 2017, 06:18:52 PM
Anthony! have not heard that name in along while don't want to know him. I don't believe Alan had strong support, he wasn't in with the old guard.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: George Lambesis on January 23, 2017, 09:39:29 PM
Quote from: Ted on January 23, 2017, 05:18:52 PM
Quote from: berwyn senator on January 22, 2017, 06:49:37 PM
Yes Alan was a great guy did a superb job would have my vote again where was O'conner's party to give him the support he needed?... 

Actually, you have your facts wrong.  Al Kveton and Mage Paul were the only two members of the IVB to win election in 2009 (Al was unopposed).  All other IVB candidate were defeated in that election.  Al lost in the 2013 election when he ran in the Democratic primary.

I think Al ran unopposed, because Marge Paul had the DCOB candidate kicked off of the ballot.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: Ted on January 24, 2017, 05:05:22 AM
Quote from: George Lambesis on January 23, 2017, 09:39:29 PM
I think Al ran unopposed, because Marge Paul had the DCOB candidate kicked off of the ballot.

I think you are confusing the school board election with the assessor election (but I could be wrong). I thought Marge challenged David Avila's candidacy in a school board election.

  I don't think David Avila had yet been certified in 2009 to be able to run for assessor.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: Ted on January 24, 2017, 01:19:34 PM
Quote from: Ted on January 23, 2017, 05:20:22 PM
Quote from: berwyn senator on January 23, 2017, 09:31:36 AM
Nona retiring from what?Is she getting a pension? 
I don't think aldermen receive pensions for their work as aldermen.

Well, I have been corrected on this - aldermen do receive a pension.  I didn't realize that.
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: berwyn senator on January 24, 2017, 07:53:49 PM
Here is an example of person living off the tax payers money accomplishing nothing except voting with the party, now a pension that was not earned period.Started out as an independent to save the job went over to a be a democrat. If an aldermen is not producing then should be removed from the tax rolls!!!!!!
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: berwyn senator on January 25, 2017, 03:53:28 PM
Why do aldermen recieve pensions their not full time employees!what about health insurance?
Title: Re: Election Day
Post by: Ted on January 25, 2017, 05:59:42 PM
Quote from: berwyn senator on January 25, 2017, 03:53:28 PM
Why do aldermen recieve pensions their not full time employees!what about health insurance?
I believe they do get health insurance but not totally sure.