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Current Events / Re: D100 school board vacancy
« Last post by chandasz on Today at 03:33:10 PM »
I have spoken to Lisa-- she will be sending her child to Catholic School this fall and feels that it's not right for her to sit on the public school board. I don't agree that everyone who sits on the board needs to be a parent since it should be representatives from the community as a whole. We've had multiple people on the board in the past who do not have kids in the schools. She's also got a lot on her plate with her life and felt it best to let this go.

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General Discussion / Re: Midget wrestling at Stars and Stripes
« Last post by markberwyn on Yesterday at 11:15:33 PM »
We're in divisive times. For people who don't want a serious discussion of an issue, "troll" is just a way of dismissing ideas that make you uncomfortable. Just look at the way Ronnie's minions responded---lines about "safe spaces" and "SJW" and whatnot. These people do not care about the issues of identity, respect, and slurs being raised; they just heard that if you call somebody an SJW that shuts 'em up and you win. And they don't want to talk to Catey---they find the very idea of somebody like Catey troublesome, because it's not what they're used to. And they don't want to have a discussion about calling people "midgets" vs. "little people"---if that were the case, they wouldn't be dumping on a person *who runs a national organization dedicated to defending the rights and dignity of little people.* Civil discourse is hard, so this is how they respond.

If an organization wants to go around the country promoting "midget wrestling," that's their right. But venues also have the right to say that spectacles that exploit difference are poor fits for their establishments and their communities. Ronnie Lottz disagrees, so he gets to play a continuing and increasing role in what people think of when they think of Berwyn.
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General Discussion / Re: Midget wrestling at Stars and Stripes
« Last post by Ted on Yesterday at 10:34:26 PM »
FYI, the city council voted to approve the permit for midget wrestling.
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General Discussion / Re: Midget wrestling at Stars and Stripes
« Last post by Ted on Yesterday at 10:22:19 PM »
I see here that Ronnie Lottz has sicced his supporters on one person who registered a complaint about the wrestling event:

https://www.facebook.com/CigarsAndStripesBBQ/posts/10154706954971892

Garbage behavior. (The chastisement about how women are supposed to behave is just the cherry on top.) I find it inexplicable that the Berwyn Development Corporation, which exists to promote the best of Berwyn, sees fit to promote this establishment.

Yes, they are going after Catey Sullivan on BCK.  Several people have called her a "troll" and some have recommended she be banned from BCK. One person called her "an attention seeking whore".

   Catey is (or was) a journalist.  She worked for the Windy City Times at one point in her career.

  She is also a thorn in the side of Lovero and his supporters.  For each city council meeting, she looks to see who the city  is awarding a contract and then posts the contributions that company made to Lovero's campaign or to the DCOB.

 I think some of the calls of her removal from BCK and calling her a troll are coming from DCOB supporters who do not like her posts and research on contract being awarded by the city.  They would like nothing better than getting her removed from BCK.

  FYI, she tried 2 different posts on BCK on midget wrestling and both times the BCK admins turned off commenting.  BCK has some new admins In the last month - (the old admin did not want to be admin any more)  that have tightened the discussions.  They have turned off several posts if they view the posts as getting out of hand and personal.

  It also got me to wondering - what is the definition of a troll?  Catey uses her real name and posts legitimate posts on politics and following up on contracts and campaign contributions.

  Why do some people think that is "troll" behavior?  To me, a troll is someone who hides their identity and is there to make personal trouble on a site.  Catey hasn't done that.


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General Discussion / Re: Midget wrestling at Stars and Stripes
« Last post by markberwyn on Yesterday at 09:08:22 PM »
I see here that Ronnie Lottz has sicced his supporters on one person who registered a complaint about the wrestling event:

https://www.facebook.com/CigarsAndStripesBBQ/posts/10154706954971892

Garbage behavior. (The chastisement about how women are supposed to behave is just the cherry on top.) I find it inexplicable that the Berwyn Development Corporation, which exists to promote the best of Berwyn, sees fit to promote this establishment.
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General Discussion / Re: Midget wrestling at Stars and Stripes
« Last post by markberwyn on July 24, 2017, 10:19:12 AM »
Ronnie Trump.
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General Discussion / Re: Midget wrestling at Stars and Stripes
« Last post by Ted on July 24, 2017, 08:13:38 AM »
Yeah, I saw the thread got killed. You didn't miss much: The comments were the usual "complaining about this is political correctness run amok!" junk.

Why can't these people who complain about "political correctness" express or defend some genuinely interesting and provocative ideas? They never say stuff like "marriage is institutionalized ownership of a person," or "some drug experimentation is a good thing," or "single payer for all." No. It's always just "Waaaaaaa, I wanna tell rape jokes!" and "We need more Confederate monuments!" and "I want to watch entertainment that exploits people who are different from me!" If the people making those comments are from Berwyn, they're low-class Berwyn.

  Cigars and Stripes seems to have a loyal clientele who will rabidly defend him no matter what.  I have no doubt that if Cigars and Stripes asked permission to have cock fighting, his defenders would say it is just an animal.
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General Discussion / Re: Midget wrestling at Stars and Stripes
« Last post by markberwyn on July 24, 2017, 07:28:35 AM »
Yeah, I saw the thread got killed. You didn't miss much: The comments were the usual "complaining about this is political correctness run amok!" junk.

Why can't these people who complain about "political correctness" express or defend some genuinely interesting and provocative ideas? They never say stuff like "marriage is institutionalized ownership of a person," or "some drug experimentation is a good thing," or "single payer for all." No. It's always just "Waaaaaaa, I wanna tell rape jokes!" and "We need more Confederate monuments!" and "I want to watch entertainment that exploits people who are different from me!" If the people making those comments are from Berwyn, they're low-class Berwyn.
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General Discussion / Re: Midget wrestling at Stars and Stripes
« Last post by Ted on July 24, 2017, 06:47:48 AM »
Look at the garbage that people post in the comments when somebody tries to make a reasonable complaint about this. Look at the kind of garbage culture Ronnie Lottz helps create in Berwyn.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/551628248276853/permalink/1197724193667252/

When I clicked on the link, it said the post had been removed.  There was a similar discussion going on in Berwyn Cool Kids but the admin of BCK shut down that discussion also.  I posted some hypotheticals (e.g. what if Cigars and Stripes wanted to have dog fighting) and some people angrily responded to me.

  After that, the admin shut down the post (I did not even have a chance to respond).
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General Discussion / Re: Midget wrestling at Stars and Stripes
« Last post by markberwyn on July 23, 2017, 10:11:22 AM »
Look at the garbage that people post in the comments when somebody tries to make a reasonable complaint about this. Look at the kind of garbage culture Ronnie Lottz helps create in Berwyn.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/551628248276853/permalink/1197724193667252/
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