« Last post by Bungalow on June 30, 2015, 05:36:44 PM »
One of my all time favorite bumper stickers: The Religious Right is Neither.
Updated 5/20/05 - "All Sites Berwyn" listing -- http://www.berwyntalk.com/smf/index.php?topic=30.0
I'm getting very tired of hearing "What the Bible says" from politicians.
The Bible is wrong about Creation.
The Bible is wrong about evolution.
The Bible is wrong about slavery.
And yes, it's wrong about homosexuality and same sex marriage.
This weekend was packed with idiots, in every media, still spouting crap about God's word. Enough !
who are you referring to?
Who is this advice intended for?
Someone needs to go in the bar and check,female only.Well, I'd hate to recommend that anybody actually patronize the business to find out.
Well, what outside of not patronizing Cigars and Stripes would you recommend the people of Berwyn do?
Oh, goodness, I wasn't actually recommending that people not patronize the place at all. I meant it'd be dumb to go there just to see if the mirror is still up. And besides, recommending people not go there would be tantamount to calling for a boycott, and I tend to think boycotts are dumb and counterproductive. Think of the people on this board who suggested that it was women exclusively who had to boycott the place---as if Ronnie Lottz's bad behavior was women's problem to fix.
What I will say---and what everybody here can agree on---is that if you know the story of the mirror, you're morally obligated to visit the place mindfully. You have to ask yourself:
1. Am I OK with patronizing a business whose owner calls women c*nts and bitches and prostitutes when he's criticized by them?
2. Am I OK with patronizing a business whose owner responds to women who say they feel unsafe by dismissing their concerns? Indeed, by openly mocking them?
3. Am I OK with patronizing a business whose owner misleads the media?
4. Am I OK with patronizing a business whose owner fires a bigot in his employ with great haste when it's called out, but sinks into delay and sophistry when a plainly offensive mirror is called out?
5. Am I OK with patronizing a business whose owner's pig-headedness forced a waste of resources, however modest, from the police department and city council?
6. Am I OK with patronizing a business whose owner cynically carried the flag for cyberbullying---a true and legitimate social issue---simply to cover for his own foolish and insulting behavior?
I know there are a lot of people who will respond to those questions by saying, "Here's my money, Ronnie---fill my gullet!" According to various reports, Ronnie can griddle a McNugget a lot better the McDonald's down the block, or whatever it is he does. Fine. But you don't get to pretend that going there doesn't count as a decision in response to Ronnie Lottz's actions.
(I think that the BDC, as an organization with a mission of maintaining and improving Berwyn's reputation, ought to think more closely about these questions. But everybody who knows the mirror story is on the hook for this.)