Anybody watching the Casey Anthony Trial besides me?

[billyjean]

This is gonna be a doosey !!! 

Baez has set forth one hell of a yarn. 

So, your kid/grandkid drowns in back pool and no one calls 911.  Then they go through machinations on the scale of "War and Peace" to cover up ... an ACCIDENT.  omg

[berwynson]

This is gonna be a doosey !!! 

Baez has set forth one hell of a yarn. 

So, your kid/grandkid drowns in back pool and no one calls 911.  Then they go through machinations on the scale of "War and Peace" to cover up ... an ACCIDENT.  omg

Think it will devolve into a "Monkey Trial"?   berwynson

[billyjean]

There are a million stories out there regarding trials.  We all sat through the OJ trial and watched as attorneys worked their magic, and that's what I am more interested in than the actual case itself.

I KNOW we have defense attorneys on BTF, and aside from discussion of whether Casey is innocent or guilty, I am more interested in tactics, since I love playing strategy games.  

No one knows, since it was not conclusively established at time of autopsy, manner of death.  We do know the remains had duct tape over mouth and nose.

I think we can all agree that a defense attorney never asks his client if they did the crime.  At least that's the way I know it.  What has always bothered me is how a defense attorney will come out with a story.  In this story, Baez came out with the child drowned in backyard pool.  That Casey came around the corner to see her father holding the dead child in his arms.  I assume, since Baez was not there to witness it, he is going on the word of his client, who has a very long history of lying.  Like Dr. Drew talks about addicts so goes for Casey.  "If their lips are moving they are lying".  Ok, that's all my opinion.  So other than word of his client, and without no proof whatsoever (cause he doesn't have to prove it) Baez says she drowned, and further drags the father into the story, AND further drags the meter reader into the story.  He leaves it there knowing now he doesn't have to prove ANYTHING of what he just said.

So we have Baez throwing out a story as a strategy to put reasonable doubt in the minds of the jurors.  OK, now instead of prosecutors sticking with the accumulation of FACTS as THEIR case, they now seem to be put in a position of disproving the story of Baez, a story that has NO facts to support it.

Why would you need to put duct tape over the mouth and nose of a child that drowned?

In any event, I assume prosecution will stick to their guns, using FACTS, to systematically demonstrate that it was Casey that murdered the child.  Let Baez's story fad into the sunset.

I just never understood why defense attorneys are allowed to make up a story that has no facts to support it in an attempt to get a client off.

Any of you guys want to take a crack at explaining why they are allowed to do it?

At the end of the day, the jury is asked to look at the FACTS.  If Baez has no evidence to support his story, then the jury should be instructed to dismiss his theory of drowning ... right?

[OakParkSpartan]

If there was duct tape over the nose and mouth, how could you drown?

[billyjean]

The United States is still one of the last places on earth where ppl still hold certain things dear.

Example:  Outside of the British, Americans hold their pets in a very high place, treating them as if they were children part of the family.

It's been asked over and over on TV why the fascination with the Anthony case.  I have yet to hear my answer to that question.  I believe that the USA is still one of the last places on earth where harm to children is considered the lowest form of crime.  Disdain for ppl who hurt or kill children is so great, that the perp doesn't even find safe haven in prison, cause as we know, child rapists and killers are prime targets for vengeance by other inmates.  So even the worst of the worst in prison don't welcome those that kill or harm children into the fold.

So to me, the fascination, is a woman who refutes she killed her child so she could party.  But is willling to implicate her own father stating it was a pool accident.  I think if a pole was taken, she would be totally convicted in the court of public opinion.  Have others killed their children?  Yes.  Like Susan Smith who let her car slide into a large pond killling her boys inside.  If memory serves me correctly, Susan Smith initially told investigators her boys were kidnapped after a carjacking of some sort.  She later broke down and told the truth.  Ppl can give some sort of credit to an individual if they have done wrong ... terrible wrong ... unthinkable wrong .... but admit it.  It's another thing when an individual tells lie after lie and is willing to destroy her entire family because she wants to save her own butt.  I think ppl have a gut reaction that you then are truly evil, and must be removed from society.  If you are willing to kill your own kid not sure we want you walking around free.

Her mental state has been discussed.  I thought you HAD to pass a mental eval, yet I also heard she refused to talk to the appointed shrink.

The bottomline to me is that ppl want justice for the little girl.  They see Casey as the one person who should have done everything in the world to protect and nurture her child, give her OWN life for the child.  Instead, Casey turned on a little 3 year old girl.  It's the ultimate betrayal, and that's what Americans cannot and will not stand for.

[billyjean]

It's amazing to me how we have all these posters yet not any comments on this trial considering it's reported non-stop on the news.

Well, the verdict is the verdict.  It's done.

I only have a couple questions, and if the legal minds on this board can help to answer, I would appreciate.

1.  I realize it was the state that brought the slate of charges.  Couldn't they have brought a charge (not knowing Florida law) charges of neglect?  She was the last person with the child.  Gave no explanation of how the child disappeared from her care (she did, but it was proven to be a lie), and her child ends up dead.  Isn't there something in the area of negligence?  It's hard to believe that she has charge of the child, refuses to say what happened to her, and the child ends up dead.  There should be something that makes her responsible for the welfare of the child.  You can add the not reporting for 31 days as well.  BTW, ever wonder how this 31 days was arrived at.  It came from Casey.

2.  Baez in his opening statement said ... well, the child drowned.  Didn't Baez have a duty to tell law enforcement at the moment he was told that by his client that the child drowned?  If he knew, why were all these ppl called in to find Caylee, at great expense.

those were just a few things I was thinking about.

I know, as you probably do too, that lawsuits are going to be flying from every direction. 

[Bonster]

It's amazing to me how we have all these posters yet not any comments on this trial considering it's reported non-stop on the news.

They're unavoidable and all over Facebook.  Yikes.

[Bonster]

I just hope she takes Vivid up on their offer:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/06/casey-anthony-gets-porn-offer_n_891339.html

[billyjean]

It's amazing to me how we have all these posters yet not any comments on this trial considering it's reported non-stop on the news.

They're unavoidable and all over Facebook.  Yikes.

no, Dear ... I'm talking about BTF.  Not that we have to take over the entire forum on this subject, but it would be interesting to see what some of you think.  I just basically had those few questions which I hope someone will address.

[billyjean]

I just hope she takes Vivid up on their offer:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/06/casey-anthony-gets-porn-offer_n_891339.html

why would you want to watch a woman who killed her kid?  ewwww

Funny how her body changed in prison.  Take a peek.

[BRoWN]

So this time the Justice system worked the way its supposed to. Too bad the prosecution failed.

[billyjean]

I just hope she takes Vivid up on their offer:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/06/casey-anthony-gets-porn-offer_n_891339.html

Bon, Vivid just withdrew that offer and made a statement.  Gosh, when the porn industry rejects you that's when you know that you are now a person without a country.

[The Jackal]

2.  Baez in his opening statement said ... well, the child drowned.  Didn't Baez have a duty to tell law enforcement at the moment he was told that by his client that the child drowned? 

Absolutely NOT. He would probably lose his law license if he did, as the aforementioned communication is protected by the attorney-client privilege.

[Bonster]

I just hope she takes Vivid up on their offer:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/06/casey-anthony-gets-porn-offer_n_891339.html

Bon, Vivid just withdrew that offer and made a statement.  Gosh, when the porn industry rejects you that's when you know that you are now a person without a country.

That's too bad; hope someone picks her up.  She could always do home movies, too.

[billyjean]

2.  Baez in his opening statement said ... well, the child drowned.  Didn't Baez have a duty to tell law enforcement at the moment he was told that by his client that the child drowned? 

Absolutely NOT. He would probably lose his law license if he did, as the aforementioned communication is protected by the attorney-client privilege.

Well, Texas Equisearch (sp?) apparently feels Baez will be included in a future lawsuit to recoup $$$ that was donated to TE to pay for TE to look for the child on the behalf and the request of the Anthonys, who Baez was working closely with at that time .

[The Jackal]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Good luck with all that....!!!

[billyjean]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Good luck with all that....!!!

I'm not suing anybody.  They are.  So is the State of Florida to recoup search and investigation costs. 

[The Jackal]

Good luck to them...LOL!!!

[billyjean]

Juror states there was no cause of death.  Wait a minute.  Ppl have been convicted of murder when the body has never been found !  I don't get it.

Another juror stated that she based her decision on the fear that Casey would get death penality.  It wasn't her job to worry about the death penalty.  It was her job to decide guilty or not guilty.  I think we had a Jaywalking crew of jurors here.

Oh one last thing.  Don't forget now to lie your ass off to law enforcement.  It's only one year and $1,000.  Most of you could do that standing on your head.  For the 1 year and $1,000 you can avoid death or life in prison.  Sounds good to me.  Didn't realize it was that easy.  You learn alot by watching this stuff.  Now I know how to avoid being convicted for murder.

[The Jackal]

Juror states there was no cause of death.  Wait a minute.  Ppl have been convicted of murder when the body has never been found !  I don't get it.

You don't get it because you fail to comprehend the difference between the CAUSE OF DEATH and the corpus delicti (body) of the crime.

Another juror stated that she based her decision on the fear that Casey would get death penalty.  It wasn't her job to worry about the death penalty.  It was her job to decide guilty or not guilty.  I think we had a Jaywalking crew of jurors here.

On ONE count only...in any event, maybe that's evidence that the prosecutor OVERCHARGED the case?

Oh one last thing.  Don't forget now to lie your ass off to law enforcement.  It's only one year and $1,000.  Most of you could do that standing on your head.  For the 1 year and $1,000 you can avoid death or life in prison.  Sounds good to me.  Didn't realize it was that easy.  You learn a lot by watching this stuff.  Now I know how to avoid being convicted for murder.

NOBODY on these forums could do a year standing on their heads, much the less over three like Anthony has served.

Think about it for a minute...Anthony was given MAXIMUM one year misdemeanor sentences, running CONSECUTIVELY, on all four counts, despite not having any previous criminal history (from what I understand). I've NEVER seen that before, but can't say I'm surprised. In fact, its EXACTLY the sentence I expected. The Judge covered his ass well, understandably so.