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Started by Paul Fuentes, February 02, 2009, 11:47:24 PM

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n01_important

Quote from: jake on February 05, 2009, 11:56:25 AM

And, incidently, the spending in Iraq also results in employment for millions of people.


It also helps the Haliburtons of the world make cu cu bucks.

Those benefits far outweigh the negatives:

  • the war is morally wrong
  • shows our priorities are screwed up since what we spend in the war a month which we can feed all the world's hungry for 3 years saving 1000s of lives
  • helps the recruitment of terrorists since we kill innocent people
  • proves to rouge nations that IF you have nuclear weapons, US won't attack but will shower you with gifts (North Korea vs. Iraq)
  • we'll have to spend another $500M for the health care of wounded soldiers providing additional profits for our companies (our true citizens, we are just pond scum who are expected to play nice.
Stupid fuck

jake

Quote from: n01_important on February 05, 2009, 06:45:02 PM
Quote from: jake on February 05, 2009, 11:56:25 AM

And, incidently, the spending in Iraq also results in employment for millions of people.


It also helps the Haliburtons of the world make cu cu bucks.

Those benefits far outweigh the negatives:

  • the war is morally wrong
  • shows our priorities are screwed up since what we spend in the war a month which we can feed all the world's hungry for 3 years saving 1000s of lives
  • helps the recruitment of terrorists since we kill innocent people
  • proves to rouge nations that IF you have nuclear weapons, US won't attack but will shower you with gifts (North Korea vs. Iraq)
  • we'll have to spend another $500M for the health care of wounded soldiers providing additional profits for our companies (our true citizens, we are just pond scum who are expected to play nice.


Does that apply to Afghanistan too?

Paul Fuentes

Quote from: n01_important on February 05, 2009, 06:45:02 PM

Those benefits far outweigh the negatives:

  • the war is morally wrong
  • shows our priorities are screwed up since what we spend in the war a month which we can feed all the world's hungry for 3 years saving 1000s of lives
  • helps the recruitment of terrorists since we kill innocent people
  • proves to rouge nations that IF you have nuclear weapons, US won't attack but will shower you with gifts (North Korea vs. Iraq)
  • we'll have to spend another $500M for the health care of wounded soldiers providing additional profits for our companies (our true citizens, we are just pond scum who are expected to play nice.


I.  Please tell us how the war is morally wrong.   Seems just last week the peeps had their first democratic election in decades.  R U telling me SH was not a Totalitarian Dictator that did NOT commit genocide at will?  R U further asserting that he complied with the Bawless UN petitions to have weapons inspections? 

II.  It is not our charge to feed all the hungry in the world over and above protecting our sovereign soil.  If that is your position send all your disposable income to World Vision.  It is our charge to protect those between our borders.  I have no problem with charity, but that notion begins at home.

III.  We are not recruiting terrorists.  We do not go after innocent people.  Terrorists do.  That is their MO.

ENOUGH

If you have such sympathy for our enemies, please join them.  Then at least I know what uniform you are wearing. 


n01_important

Quote from: Paul Fuentes on February 05, 2009, 11:53:05 PM


I. War was started under false pretenses.  Yes, SH was a dictator but when he committed his worst atrocities, he was our best friend.  We even gave/sold some of arms he used to terrorize his own people.  We didn't seem to have a problem with him when he was gassing Kurds.  He only became an enemy when he got the nerve to act on his own. 

Dictators that kill their people have never been a problem with the US, only those dictators that dare to act on their own accord.  SH made the mistake of attempting to change the oil currency to the Euro.  Funny, the first thing the US did when it took over, was change it back.  It only recently allowed Iraq's to vote.  Shows where our priorities our.

II.  Yes, maybe we don't have a charter to feed the world's hungry.  We can't even seem to do it in our own country.  But it seems we do have a charter to kill others or support those that rape and pillage their people... as long as they allow our corporations to pillage their natural resources.

III.  The best thing we can do to stop terrorist is to stop terrorizing others.  Let's throw an example, Panama.  We sent in troops to arrest yet another former US friend, Manuel Noriega   Our military killed 250 (if you believe them) to 4,000 (if you believe the rest of the world).  What was the response from our government?  "Just collateral damage". 

Another, shall we?  Our country committed mass genocide with the Indians.  Killing many, using germ warfare on others.  The rest were shuffled like cattle once we found something of value on the lands we promised was theres.  If I remember correctly, we broke EVERY SINGLE treaty with them.  Other examples?  'Nam's Bao Dai, China's Chiang Kai-shek, Congo's Laurent Kabila, Uganda's Idi Amin, Chile's Pinochet, Dominican Republic's Trujillo, blah blah blah.

Regarding your quote of "If you have such sympathy for our enemies, please join them.."  You must be reading the Bush's "Patriotism for Dummies" book. 

You can criticize the policies of our government and still be a patriot.  Isn't that what you are doing ranting about "Obama is bad... wha wa wa"?  Based on your logic, since your not supporting the current administration, you must be with the enemy.
Stupid fuck

watcher

Quote from: rbain on February 05, 2009, 08:23:08 AM
The item you list total $5.3 Billion. OR about .6% of the total bill, OR about three weeks in Iraq!

Please, we can't take much more of your conservative "fiscal responsibility".


Incidently, millions of people are employed in part through grants from the NEA, myself included.

-Rob

"Atlas Shrugged": A Thousand Pages of Bad Science Fiction About Sock-Puppets Stabbing Strawmen with Tax Cuts. -Driftglass