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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2009, 09:51:39 PM »

Be careful out there. Things could get ugly
at Whole Foods.

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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2010, 12:39:09 PM »

After 5 months that the liberals declared war on Whole Foods because the CEO spoke up against Obama's healthcare plan... the earnings for 2009 came out and guess what?

Whole Foods posted a surprise increase.  With the sour economy and liberal protesters as headwinds, Whole Foods posted 3.5% increase in sales (same store sales).

Have the liberals lost there effectiveness or just their stamina?  Or did the conservatives embracing Whole Foods result in the sales increase?  Regardless, this is proof that the liberal strike did nothing to hurt Whole Foods and may have actually helped.  I did notice one change, the COO is now the spokesman.   Grin

Whole Foods Gains On Healthy Profits

Shares of Whole Foods Market changed hands at a rapid pace Wednesday after the health food grocery chain posted fiscal-first quarter earnings well ahead of analysts’ expectations.

Late Tuesday, Whole Foods Market ( WFMI - news - people ) said it earned $49.7 million, or 32 cents per share, in the 17 weeks that ended Jan. 17, beating expectations for earnings of 26 cents per share. Quarterly revenue of $2.6 billion was in line with Wall Street’s predictions. (See “Healthy Profits For Whole Foods.”)

Nearly 10 million Whole Foods shares were in play by midday Wednesday, and the health food retailer’s stock pushed up 12.1% to trade at $34.20.

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http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/17/whole-foods-grocery-markets-equities-mackey.html?boxes=marketschannelequities
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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2010, 09:34:29 AM »

I started shopping there after the "boycott" started.
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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2010, 10:50:22 AM »

Me 2  

Maybe the number didn't increase but we spent more.  Grin

For that to be true, the average conservative would have to make >> than the average liberal weenie salary.  Wink
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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2010, 11:08:31 AM »

Didn't know where else to post this news.

The healthcare industry is shifting its political contributions (aka congressman-rental-rate) to Republicans.  So what does that mean?

Could it mean that the Democrats are pushing hard on the 15% of GDP industry (that also provides poor results relative to other countries that spend 1/2 as much) to lower cost so they are looking for new friends?

Could it mean that they see the Democrats as losers in the upcoming elections and they want their money with the winners?  hmmmm.

Regardless, we will start hearing messages from the Republican tool/zombies about the merits/goodness of the healthcare oligopoly.  But those tools/zombies are getting their downloads/marching-orders right now... so just wait a few weeks.   Grin

Wall Street shifting political contributions to Republicans

By Dan Eggen and Tomoeh Murakami Tse
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, February 24, 2010

Commercial banks and high-flying investment firms have shifted their political contributions toward Republicans in recent months amid harsh rhetoric from Democrats about fat bank profits, generous bonuses and stingy lending policies on Wall Street.

The wealthy securities and investment industry, for example, went from giving 2 to 1 to Democrats at the start of 2009 to providing almost half of its donations to Republicans by the end of the year, according to new data compiled for The Washington Post by the Center for Responsive Politics.

Commercial banks and their employees also returned to their traditional tilt in favor of the GOP after a brief dalliance with Democrats, giving nearly twice as much to Republicans during the last three months of 2009, the data show. At the same time, total political donations by the major banks and investment houses alike dropped in the waning months of that year.

The nascent shift came even before the White House announced proposals for a new tax on banks and a curb on some of their riskiest trading activities.

The proposals, offered last month, particularly alarmed Wall Street and have triggered renewed industry efforts to work with Democrats as well as Republicans on regulatory reform legislation that the bankers can live with, according to industry and government officials. Wall Street executives would prefer to engage with Democratic leaders now rather than face prolonged uncertainty about the rules to govern the industry, the sources said.

The new campaign contributions data underscore the political quandary facing Democrats, who want Wall Street donations to help fend off a GOP resurgence in congressional elections this fall but hope to distance themselves from an industry vilified by the public as greedy and ungrateful. President Obama has sought to strike a balance, calling outsize Wall Street bonuses "shameful" and "obscene" while also assuring business executives that he does not "begrudge people success or wealth."

Republicans, meanwhile, are soliciting Wall Street for donations with the argument that Democratic proposals would hurt the bottom lines of major financial institutions. House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) told reporters this month that he was urging Wall Street executives to "help our team" oppose the "bizarre policies" coming out of the Obama administration.

One senior Republican staff member on Capitol Hill, who discussed contributions on the condition of anonymity, said: "Democrats in Washington are clearly trying to move legislation that would be very damaging to that industry. It was almost like there was a free ride time. But now they're starting to see the real negative impact of Democratic proposals."

Obama had unusually strong backing from Wall Street for a Democratic presidential candidate. He raised more than $18 million from bank and brokerage employees, for example, compared with rival John McCain's $10 million. (Obama did not accept money from PACs.) Prominent among Obama's bundlers -- individuals who raised at least $50,000 -- were private equity executives and hedge fund titans, including billionaire Kenneth C. Griffin of Citadel Investment Group, who had previously backed Republicans.

But Obama soon encountered stiff opposition from the financial industry -- and some fellow Democrats -- over proposals to curb executive pay, tighten rules on financial derivatives and create an agency to protect consumers of mortgages, credit cards and other financial products. Financial executives have also bristled at the president's increasingly populist tone over the past year, including his quip in December that he did not run for office to help "fat-cat bankers on Wall Street."

The industry has responded with its own change in attitude, according to contribution data and interviews. For some prominent executives, the final straw came in January, when Obama proposed a fee on big banks to recoup losses from the government's $700 billion program to bail out financial firms. When the president followed up a few days later with another plan to restrict the growth of large banks, some on Wall Street said they regretted their earlier support. "I'm not voting for him again," one said.

Still, others said they would not switch alliances just yet. "I understand people are not happy about this. Wall Street did pour a lot of money into the campaign, some of which I solicited," said one Wall Street executive and Democratic bundler, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the topic. "Having said that, we're kind of responsible for a lot of what went down."

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/23/AR2010022305537_2.html?sid=ST2010022400294
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« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2010, 04:23:01 PM »

...Regardless, we will start hearing messages from the Republican tool/zombies about the merits/goodness of the healthcare oligopoly.  But those tools/zombies are getting their downloads/marching-orders right now... so just wait a few weeks.   Grin


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I prefer oligopolies to oligarchies any day!

But, I am not against reasonable regulations; the real problem is that this BIG government never seems to regulate itself (i.e. Fannie/Freddie) which is THE regulation that is needed most.

You know the old saying: "Doctor, heal thyself?"

Also, you are over-looking the present oligarchy's cozy relationship with certain oligopolies; we've seen this before in the first half of the last century in Europe....

You don' need "marching orders" to see the economic destruction caused by our current president and congress; in fact, only a "tool" and a "zombie" could be blind to what is happening!

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« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2010, 10:18:13 AM »

Eno - I'm giving everyone a heads up on how Rush and his cronies will soon start praising banks/investment companies... probably using bs terms like "free market", blah blah blah.  Of course, when that happens you will start to hear the tools get their marching orders from Radio Rush and begin a 180 degree on the merits of the banking/investment industry.  

Give them 6 months... it will happen.

Not that the Democrats are free of blame... hearing Obama praise the banking cronies was despicable.  Of course the bankers made money... we lent them billions of dollars are near 0 interest rate and they lend it back to us by buying treasuries at 4%.  That's almost a 3900% return on investment!  A mf monkey with half a brain can make money with those type of returns!

Obama stated early in Feb. on the combined $26 million in stock coming to JP Morgan Chase's Jamie Dimon and Goldman Sachs' Lloyd Blankfein, Obama said:

    I know both those guys; they are very savvy businessmen. . . . I, like most of the American people, don't begrudge people success or wealth. That is part of the free- market system.


Read more: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/02/10/we-interupt-this-populist-message-to-praise-the-bankers/#ixzz0hViJcpMY
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« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2010, 02:00:06 PM »

After talking on and on about the misinformation in the healthcare debate, we get this from Obama  speaking about the insurers:

"I just met with some of them on Thursday, and they couldn't give me a straight answer as to why they keep arbitrarily and massively raising premiums — by as much as 60 percent in states like Illinois. If we do not act, they will continue to do this."

Wow, 60 percent!  I wonder if anyone on this board had his or her rates go up that much.  I was nervous that maybe my provider was one of those that went up 60%, so I did some research, just like I am sure Obama did (because he wouldn't want to cloud the debate with bad or skewed info).  It turns out that 1 (yes, 1!) insurance provider increased base rates by 60% in Illinois.  Was it one of the of the health insurance "oligopoly" members?  No!  Can you even purchase insurance from this provider any more?  No!  It turns out that Prudential Insurance Company of America increased base rates by 60%, but per the Prudential SEC filings, PRU sold its health insurance business to Aetna in 1999, so the closed book of business in Illinois is just part of a run off portfolio.  As people exit this "closed" book, of course rates are going to increase.

But I am sure Obama's 60% claim, while technically true, was not meant to cloud the information by using extreme outliers...

PS- I wonder if Obama would find it appropriate to slice and dice data on government reimbursement speed to our doctors and hospitals.   Smiley Or the government's "customer service" ratings for its healthcare programs... Any chance he would say that such data is clouding the debate, using skewed data, etc.? 

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« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2010, 10:42:12 PM »

One in Illinois.

How about BCBS in California.  39%.  http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/24/business/la-fi-insure24-2010feb24
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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2010, 08:50:50 AM »

OPS,

How many insured lives are under that particular plan that increased 39%?  Is the book open or closed?  What recent legislation in CA impacted the rates?  The answers require a little more work than the mainstream media wants to do, since the 39% headline number plays well to their storyline.  Given the Obama-media's track record with the IL story, I will bet this is more data mining of the outliers.

Where are the stories about the long payment delays to the first line medical workers, you know, the doctor you rely on for actual service?  If the media picked up that story and headlined it with the outliers, how would that read?  

PS- Another way to look at this is seeing it as a preview of the impact of Obamacare.  Maybe fewer people are in this particular plan (due to unemployment levels / recession for now; employer moves later when Obama is in place) so the rest of the people are stuck with higher premiums...But I guess that can't be true because Obama promised we could keep our current plans and our current doctors.    


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« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2010, 09:16:44 AM »

800,000 could be affected.  Is that enough for you?

The whole system is a mess.  There is a whole industry built up around medical insurance claims.  It is a waste of money.
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